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    Perhaps I would lie. I don’t know. But the point is I would be lying.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Tough call there. You could phrase it as 'Heaven', 'Level Two', 'the next life'. As an Agnostic, I'm not sure if your Spirit dies or 'moves on', I might phrase it as the 'next adventure'.
    You are either a pussy atheist or a pussy theist. There is no such thing as “an agnostic” because being agnostic is an adjective, not a noun, and pussies like you have bastardized this concept. One can be an agnostic theist or be a “gnostic atheist”

    its like saying you you are a blue. A blue what? A blue car? A smurf?


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ugly Truth View Post
    You're a clown who visits local children's hospitals, trying to bring a little joy into the lives of sick and dying children. One day, a 5 year old girl asks you if she will go to Heaven when she dies. What do you say to her?
    Rejoice! Your male dominator God gave you dominion over the earth, all the earth's creatures, plants, animals and all you survey, including humans who are not of your faith.

    This IS your heaven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irthriuth View Post
    Perhaps I would lie. I don’t know. But the point is I would be lying.
    I think when it comes to children who are dying; that most people would say what ever they think will bring the child comfort, regardless of their own personal beliefs or ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    You tell her yes, she will be escorted by angels and Jesus will welcome her with open arms. She doesn't need a philosophical argument on her deathbed.
    We don't do it anytime up to that point either, really. That's what believing is all about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irthriuth View Post
    You are either a pussy atheist or a pussy theist. There is no such thing as “an agnostic” because being agnostic is an adjective, not a noun, and pussies like you have bastardized this concept. One can be an agnostic theist or be a “gnostic atheist”

    its like saying you you are a blue. A blue what? A blue car? A smurf?
    Why does it have to be black or white with you? Why can’t it be, “I don’t know and I just live my life because it doesn’t have a bearing on my existence”? That is agnosticism to me, it is t pussy at all, it’s simply stating I don’t have enough evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    I think when it comes to children who are dying; that most people would say what ever they think will bring the child comfort, regardless of their own personal beliefs or ideas.
    Believing is the purposeful suspension of critical thinking, perhaps this is a conservatve gambler kinda angle, why not, can't hurt.

    And sometimes that turns out ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Why does it have to be black or white with you? Why can’t it be, “I don’t know and I just live my life because it doesn’t have a bearing on my existence”? That is agnosticism to me, it is t pussy at all, it’s simply stating I don’t have enough evidence.
    " Why can’t it be, “I don’t know and I just live my life because it doesn’t have a bearing on my existence”? "

    Because you cannot be allowed to wander off on your own like that. Remember how we started this thing here, and The Inquisition.

    If you're independent and coherent you're a threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irthriuth View Post
    You are either a pussy atheist or a pussy theist. There is no such thing as “an agnostic” because being agnostic is an adjective, not a noun, and pussies like you have bastardized this concept. One can be an agnostic theist or be a “gnostic atheist”

    its like saying you you are a blue. A blue what? A blue car? A smurf?
    Thank you for your thoughtful post. I will give you MY thoughts on the term.

    My interpretation of 'Theist' is someone that believes in God/Gods.
    My interpretation of 'Atheist' is someone that denies God/Gods exist.
    My interpretation of 'Agnostic' is someone that can't prove either God/Gods exist or God/Gods don't exist. And really doesn't care, and usually has an Epicurean attitude about God/Gods (if there are God/Gods, they don't interact with humans).

    My view is more an Epicurean view, I plan on living THIS life to the Max, and IF there is a 'Level 2', I plan on living THAT life to the Max. And if there is a 'Level 3' ... you get the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Why does it have to be black or white with you? Why can’t it be, “I don’t know and I just live my life because it doesn’t have a bearing on my existence”? That is agnosticism to me, it is t pussy at all, it’s simply stating I don’t have enough evidence.
    1. I think Irthriuth is just fucking with us.
    2. The view of Epicures was that IF there were Gods, they would be hanging out with other Gods and NOT hanging out with lowly humans. Epicures was probably an Atheist, but to avoid the Authorities' wrath, framed it as that. His view was to enjoy Life. I think he lived around 400 BC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fentoine Lum View Post
    " Why can’t it be, “I don’t know and I just live my life because it doesn’t have a bearing on my existence”? "

    Because you cannot be allowed to wander off on your own like that. Remember how we started this thing here, and The Inquisition.

    If you're independent and coherent you're a threat.
    Fentoine Lum. Glad to see you have re-appeared. The Man, ... always tries to decapitate the head of the snake. Glad you're back.

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    I would ask her, how does she think a clown would answer such a silly question?

    I wouldn't lie to a dying child.
    We have the intellect to imagine the finality of our own demise but do not have the sophistication to overcome our survival instinct and accept it.
    Solution? Magical thinking and childish promises of everlasting life.
    Ergo, religion.

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    a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
    Ask yourself honestly if this describes what you believe to be true.
    If the answer is yes, you are a racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Fentoine Lum. Glad to see you have re-appeared. The Man, ... always tries to decapitate the head of the snake. Glad you're back.
    They put me in the hole fer a bit, pfffffffffffffft, wtfever mang, someone's feelings got hurt. Kinda hard to not swing elbows when it seems everyone else is. The lines are squishy, anyway, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ugly Truth View Post
    You're a clown who visits local children's hospitals, trying to bring a little joy into the lives of sick and dying children. One day, a 5 year old girl asks you if she will go to Heaven when she dies. What do you say to her?
    You lie and tell her yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    1. I think Irthriuth is just fucking with us.
    2. The view of Epicures was that IF there were Gods, they would be hanging out with other Gods and NOT hanging out with lowly humans. Epicures was probably an Atheist, but to avoid the Authorities' wrath, framed it as that. His view was to enjoy Life. I think he lived around 400 BC.
    “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”

    Epicurus

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