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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    Never tried that but it is more or less why some people recommend you keep roots in the ground all winter if possible even if the top growth is dead.
    That makes sense; the fungi and roots have a symbiotic relationship. The world of plant and fungi relationships is fascinating! If you're interested, this was a required textbook in a class I took last summer.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C9116AK...ng=UTF8&btkr=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    That makes sense; the fungi and roots have a symbiotic relationship. The world of plant and fungi relationships is fascinating! If you're interested, this was a required textbook in a class I took last summer.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C9116AK...ng=UTF8&btkr=1
    What kind of class required The Hidden Life of Trees? Just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    What kind of class required The Hidden Life of Trees? Just curious.
    It's called "Kinomaage" which means in Ojibwe roughly "the earth shows us the way" or "earth teaches us." It is an immersion course in indigenous people's ancient ways of living, cosmology, identification and use of native plants in this region, as well as pre- and post-colonial history of this area. Our science and modern understanding of the relationships between various life forms -- particularly in the plant world -- shows that there is good scientific evidence for the indigenous belief that all living things are related in some way. The course is also of interest to foragers and survivalists and/or those who just want to try to include some of the old ways in their daily modern life.

    https://www.nmu.edu/nativeamericanstudies/kinomaage

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    It's called "Kinomaage" which means in Ojibwe roughly "the earth shows us the way" or "earth teaches us." It is an immersion course in indigenous people's ancient ways of living, cosmology, identification and use of native plants in this region, as well as pre- and post-colonial history of this area. Our science and modern understanding of the relationships between various life forms -- particularly in the plant world -- shows that there is good scientific evidence for the indigenous belief that all living things are related in some way. The course is also of interest to foragers and survivalists and/or those who just want to try to include some of the old ways in their daily modern life.

    https://www.nmu.edu/nativeamericanstudies/kinomaage
    Thanks. Hope you got something out of it. I had to do a god-awful two week granola immersion touchy-feely summer retreat in university as part of my campus job and literally thought I was going to murder some of those people before it was over. I barely spoke a word the last couple days in the field unless forced to as to keep from exploding on them. The only upside was a multi-hundred millionaire resort owner alum let us use his gigantic lake house the last two days so there was plenty of room to hide from those devils.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    Thanks. Hope you got something out of it. I had to do a god-awful two week granola immersion touchy-feely summer retreat in university as part of my campus job and literally thought I was going to murder some of those people before it was over. I barely spoke a word the last couple days in the field unless forced to as to keep from exploding on them. The only upside was a multi-hundred millionaire resort owner alum let us use his gigantic lake house the last two days so there was plenty of room to hide from those devils.
    GeezusKrystOnCrackers! Sorry. We tree-huggers can be an annoying bunch. lol

    I took my class because I wanted to. Had no idea that there were such classes here when we moved up in 2016. Husband saw a poster on the wall in a class he was taking last year -- Coast Guard boating safety -- and texted it to me. It led me to a whole new place, and now I am seeking a BS degree in Native American Studies. My ancestors were from this land. I've found people who share my soul and this land satisfies my soul as well. I'm a dirt girl, earth mama, tree hugger, dirty hippy. lol

    Granola is yuck. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    GeezusKrystOnCrackers! Sorry. We tree-huggers can be an annoying bunch. lol

    I took my class because I wanted to. Had no idea that there were such classes here when we moved up in 2016. Husband saw a poster on the wall in a class he was taking last year -- Coast Guard boating safety -- and texted it to me. It led me to a whole new place, and now I am seeking a BS degree in Native American Studies. My ancestors were from this land. I've found people who share my soul and this land satisfies my soul as well. I'm a dirt girl, earth mama, tree hugger, dirty hippy. lol

    Granola is yuck. lol
    I am partially of Cherokee lineage but that is more trivia to me than anything meaningful in my life. My retreat was filled with lovely team building things like try to hoist everybody on your team through a tire strung between trees after having a group session before and after about the symbolism of it as being reborn into a new way of thinking bullshit. I was all "It is 200 degrees out here and the mosquitoes are eating us alive, speed this shit up why dontcha before my rebirth is as a larvae in a stagnant pond" and all the lesbians had to cycle the whole time between competing to be the alpha queen bitch and boo-hoo woe-be-me-me stuff from the time they got up until the time they went to bed.

    Anyway, din't want to derail the gardening thread. Sorry. I was just venting the whole thing still pisses me off so much at how useless it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    You've tried it and noticed a difference? Do you have to re-inoculate every year or will it survive over winter?
    Usually, the mycorrhizae is only applied at planting and stay with that root system after that. They go dormant and should survive winters. The fungi have to come into direct contact with the roots and that difficult with established plants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Usually, the mycorrhizae is only applied at planting and stay with that root system after that. They go dormant and should survive winters. The fungi have to come into direct contact with the roots and that difficult with established plants.
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    I am partially of Cherokee lineage but that is more trivia to me than anything meaningful in my life. My retreat was filled with lovely team building things like try to hoist everybody on your team through a tire strung between trees after having a group session before and after about the symbolism of it as being reborn into a new way of thinking bullshit. I was all "It is 200 degrees out here and the mosquitoes are eating us alive, speed this shit up why dontcha before my rebirth is as a larvae in a stagnant pond" and all the lesbians had to cycle the whole time between competing to be the alpha queen bitch and boo-hoo woe-be-me-me stuff from the time they got up until the time they went to bed.

    Anyway, din't want to derail the gardening thread. Sorry. I was just venting the whole thing still pisses me off so much at how useless it was.
    It sounds like that segment in the Addams Family Values movie where the kids got shipped off to Camp Chippewa or some such rot. lol

    My class was nothing like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    GeezusKrystOnCrackers! Sorry. We tree-huggers can be an annoying bunch. lol

    I took my class because I wanted to. Had no idea that there were such classes here when we moved up in 2016. Husband saw a poster on the wall in a class he was taking last year -- Coast Guard boating safety -- and texted it to me. It led me to a whole new place, and now I am seeking a BS degree in Native American Studies. My ancestors were from this land. I've found people who share my soul and this land satisfies my soul as well. I'm a dirt girl, earth mama, tree hugger, dirty hippy. lol

    Granola is yuck. lol
    Interesting. Prince Madoc of Powys, from here, sailed to America in the 1100's, then came back and took a lot of people over there with him, allegedly. It took ages to find what was thought to be them, the Mandans, but by then they were busy dying out, and the language didn't look much like ours. It was important in justifying the British Empire, but if they took any on our gardening habits over with them I've yet to hear!

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    Quote Originally Posted by leaningright View Post
    Got home from KY last Friday. The bugs are about to carry my garden off. Squash bugs all over my squash plants, some little iridescent green-back bug sucking the sap (and thus the life) out of my cucumbers, ants invading my okra...it’s the invasion of the insects! Oh, and the rabbits had eaten about 1/4 of my green beans.

    I dispatched the rabbit with my Ruger Airhawk pellet gun yesterday morning before going to church and have a jar with a little gasoline in it and have started picking the bugs off my squash plants and have used some liquid Sevin on my cucumbers (its several weeks before they start bearing).

    IT’S FARGIN WAR!!!
    I make a concoction of liguid soap, ground cayenne pepper and tobacco that does wonders at keeping pests at bay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    I make a concoction of liguid soap, ground cayenne pepper and tobacco that does wonders at keeping pests at bay.
    I recall seeing a formulation that was a 2-in 1 repellent and compost tea combined that involved Redman Chewing Tobacco, compost, molasses, a tad bit of dawn liquid soap, and a bunch of random things aerated in a bucket then sprayed. I looked at all the ingredients I would need and said, "Screw it. Sevin dust works for me."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Can you take pics of the bugs?
    I have looked for some but they’re all gone. I can’t say I’m sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    I make a concoction of liguid soap, ground cayenne pepper and tobacco that does wonders at keeping pests at bay.
    Thanks. I have the upper hand on them now. I should be home for the rest of the summer. Well...I’m going to be forced to drag my camper and boat to a good catfish lake about an hour from here for four days next week but the garden should be fine in my absence. We’ve had a couple days of good rain too. Picked about 4 gallons of green beans this evening. Onions are bunched and hanged. Going good! I’ll remember the concoction though. I wrote it down and have been researching since I saw the post. Anytime I don’t have to use Liquid Sevin I’m happy.

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