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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    We have a good many Evangelical Christians backing Trump.
    So? What does that have to do with you spreading lies?
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    So? What does that have to do with you spreading lies?
    The only lie here is the Scofield heresy......

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    The only lie here is the Scofield heresy......
    I told you from the start I never heard of it. Why the delusory bullshit?
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    I told you from the start I never heard of it. Why the delusory bullshit?
    Your lack of education is not my problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Your lack of education is not my problem.
    Your lack of knowledge of what you are lying about isn't mine.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Your lack of knowledge of what you are lying about isn't mine.
    Are you an evangelical?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Are you an evangelical?
    You asked and I answered this question before. It's not my problem if you cannot recall your own questions and their answers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    You asked and I answered this question before. It's not my problem if you cannot recall your own questions and their answers.
    Premillennialism and dispensationalism

    By way of clarification, it should be noted that while all dispensationalists are by definition premillennial in their eschatology, not all premillennialists are dispensational in their theology. Historic Premillennialism (e.g. in George Eldon Ladd) rejects pre-tribulationalism, dispensationalism's radical tenets, and its uniquely Jewish view of the 1000 year millennium.

    Historic premillennialism may be traced back to some of the early church fathers where it was sometimes termed "chiliasm."


    The idea of different "dispensations" may be found in the writings of some of the early church fathers, and viewing the flow of biblical history as a series of "dispensations" may be seen in some works that pre-date Darby's dispensationalism, such as L'OEconomie Divine by Pierre Poiret (1646-1719). But these earlier works did not include the unique testing/failure motif described by Scofield or any hint of the underlying tenets of Darby's dispensationalism.

    https://www.theopedia.com/dispensationalism

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Premillennialism and dispensationalism

    By way of clarification, it should be noted that while all dispensationalists are by definition premillennial in their eschatology, not all premillennialists are dispensational in their theology. Historic Premillennialism (e.g. in George Eldon Ladd) rejects pre-tribulationalism, dispensationalism's radical tenets, and its uniquely Jewish view of the 1000 year millennium.

    Historic premillennialism may be traced back to some of the early church fathers where it was sometimes termed "chiliasm."


    The idea of different "dispensations" may be found in the writings of some of the early church fathers, and viewing the flow of biblical history as a series of "dispensations" may be seen in some works that pre-date Darby's dispensationalism, such as L'OEconomie Divine by Pierre Poiret (1646-1719). But these earlier works did not include the unique testing/failure motif described by Scofield or any hint of the underlying tenets of Darby's dispensationalism.

    https://www.theopedia.com/dispensationalism
    Another deflection. Why do you believe all this stupid shit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Another deflection. Why do you believe all this stupid shit?
    Both Dominionism and Dispensationalism arise from the Scofield teachings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Both Dominionism and Dispensationalism arise from the Scofield teachings.
    As I said, I've never heard of this Scofield.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    As I said, I've never heard of this Scofield.
    If you belong to the Christian Right, you are probably a Dominionist without even knowing where that doctrine comes from.

    “Defined in its simplest form, Christian Dominionism is a political approach to Christian faith based on a literal interpretation of Genesis Chapter 1 verses 26 – 28 of the Christian Bible. Believers perceive themselves as the “chosen” or the “elect”, commanded by God to “subdue” the earth and “have dominion” over all living creatures.

    The goal of Christian Dominionism in the United States is to abolish Separation of Church and State, establishing it as a distinctively Christian Nation based upon Old Testament Mosaic Law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    If you belong to the Christian Right, you are probably a Dominionist without even knowing where that doctrine comes from.

    “Defined in its simplest form, Christian Dominionism is a political approach to Christian faith based on a literal interpretation of Genesis Chapter 1 verses 26 – 28 of the Christian Bible. Believers perceive themselves as the “chosen” or the “elect”, commanded by God to “subdue” the earth and “have dominion” over all living creatures.

    The goal of Christian Dominionism in the United States is to abolish Separation of Church and State, establishing it as a distinctively Christian Nation based upon Old Testament Mosaic Law.
    Are you insane?
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    The Creeping Dominionism Of the Religious Right
    Kyle MantylaBy Kyle Mantyla | May 5, 2010 2:38 pm
    I have to admit that I am not sure if I can seeing the rise of dominion theology more and more among the Religious Right because it is a) becoming more prevalent or b) it has always been there but I am now aware of it and therefore noticing it more.

    As we noted recently, Janet Porter’s entire May Day 2010 prayer rally was built around “7 Mountains” theology; the idea that Christians are to take dominion over, literally, seven specific facets of modern life in order to wrest control away from Satan and his demonic spirits so that Christians can put them to use in bringing about God’s kingdom on Earth: (1) Business; (2) Government; (3) Media; (4) Arts and Entertainment; (5) Education; (6) Family; and (7) Religion.

    Porter’s rally featured dozens of Religious Right leaders, all repenting and praying for one of these specific mountains. Some of them, like Cindy Jacobs, clearly subscribe to 7 Mountains theology, but others – like Tony Perkins, Mat Staver, Rick Scarborough, Rob Schenck, and Bryan Fischer – may or may not, but that didn’t stop them from participating in this event, though it did lead VCY America to drop Porter’s radio program because of her increasing involvement with this sort of dominionist theology.

    Today, while watching the Family Research Council’s pre-National Day of Prayer webcast, I noticed that the last half-hour or so was given over to attendees gathering in small groups and praying specifically for each one of these same 7 Mountains in five minute intervals.



    In fact, the official mission from the National Day of Prayer Task Force appears to be 7 Mountains-based (with the one exception being that the Task Force appears to consolidate arts and entertainment under the “media” title and adding the military to fill that open spot):

    The National Day of Prayer Task Force’s mission is to communicate with every individual the need for personal repentance and prayer, mobilizing the Christian community to intercede for America and its leadership in the seven centers of power: Government, Military, Media, Business, Education, Church and Family.

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    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/t...ligious-right/

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