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    first of all I want to thank you for saying that being "Christian" implies a higher level of morality.....however, "Christian" is a description for someone who believes in Jesus Christ, not for a person who has achieved what you have chosen for your own standards for action.........being "nice" doesn't make you a believer.....especially when you think being "nice" includes encouraging people to kill their children, do drugs and have casual sex........

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    'Religion', like everything else in America, is deeply mixed up with profit, but there are very few Christians there. Because of the business necessity for religion a sizable number of those who reject it keep defining themselves in its terms, as if it mattered. Most Europeans have moved on, because their religion (if they have one) is not profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    first of all I want to thank you for saying that being "Christian" implies a higher level of morality.....however, "Christian" is a description for someone who believes in Jesus Christ, not for a person who has achieved what you have chosen for your own standards for action.........being "nice" doesn't make you a believer.....especially when you think being "nice" includes encouraging people to kill their children, do drugs and have casual sex........
    PMP: "first of all I want to thank you for saying that being "Christian" implies a higher level of morality."
    I don't think anyone has said that or is implying that.

    PMP: "however, "Christian" is a description for someone who believes in Jesus Christ,"
    And it implies someone who has bought into the Christian Philosophy.

    PMP: "being "nice" doesn't make you a believer.....especially when you think being "nice" includes encouraging people to kill their children, do drugs and have casual sex........"
    Now THAT is being 'Christian'. Making up some lie, some falsehood, some fiction. No one that I know is 'encouraging' people to have abortions or do drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    I know many atheists who are more christian than so-called "Christians". One does not have to be religious to possess and adhere to moral principles.
    I was going to make the same comment.

    I don't think that someone who falls in the category of "none" is necessarily an atheist; it seems to mean only that they don't follow a particular religious sect. Definitely if a person claims to have belief in a god or gods, they are not an a-theist.

    Interesting study though.... confirms what many of us have thought regarding our penchant for trying to insert religion into everything including public life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    first of all I want to thank you for saying that being "Christian" implies a higher level of morality.....however, "Christian" is a description for someone who believes in Jesus Christ, not for a person who has achieved what you have chosen for your own standards for action.........being "nice" doesn't make you a believer.....especially when you think being "nice" includes encouraging people to kill their children, do drugs and have casual sex........
    If you consider the klan , the southern baptists and jim crow,the inquisition and crusades a higher form of morality. then you really have problem with reality
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    If you consider the klan , the southern baptists and jim crow,the inquisition and crusades a higher form of morality. then you really have problem with reality
    Driven out by rising extremism, more Israelis are leaving ...

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...aism-1.6170676

    ‘I wanted no more of it’ Driven Out by Rising Extremism, More Israelis Are Leaving Orthodox Judaism . Religious Zionists leaving the fold say they are increasingly accepted by their families, as community’s push for stricter observance and hard-line views leads more young people to become secular

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Driven out by rising extremism, more Israelis are leaving ...

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...aism-1.6170676

    ‘I wanted no more of it’ Driven Out by Rising Extremism, More Israelis Are Leaving Orthodox Judaism . Religious Zionists leaving the fold say they are increasingly accepted by their families, as community’s push for stricter observance and hard-line views leads more young people to become secular
    Any chance that will be occurring in your home country of Saudi Arabia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Any chance that will be occurring in your home country of Saudi Arabia?
    Well, Its been about 12 years ago that young Islamic scholars announced that a lot of what passes for Islam is really ancient tribal practices... You have to remember that during the Ottoman Empire the whole Arabian peninsula stagnated and literacy suffered.

    So to answer your question .. yes..

    Saudi Arabia took a giant step backward in 1979 when Iran had its revolution and there was the siege of the Grand mosque. It scared them.. They weren't that strict before.. They even had movie theaters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Any chance that will be occurring in your home country of Saudi Arabia?
    Well, Its been about 12 years ago that young Islamic scholars announced that a lot of what passes for Islam is really ancient tribal practices... You have to remember that during the Ottoman Empire the whole Arabian peninsula stagnated and literacy suffered.

    So to answer your question .. yes..

    Saudi Arabia took a giant step backward in 1979 when Iran had its revolution and there was the siege of the Grand mosque. It scared them.. They weren't that strict before.. They even had movie theaters.

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    "Saudi Arabia has had no written ban on women driving, but Saudi law requires citizens use a locally issued license while in the country. Such licenses have not been issued to women, making it effectively illegal for women to drive." wiki

    Any chance your country will let you drive soon?

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    Will KSA allow the distribution and teaching of the Scofield Bible?
    (I know you support the importation and teaching of the Koran in the USA)

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    If you consider the klan , the southern baptists and jim crow,the inquisition and crusades a higher form of morality. then you really have problem with reality
    aren't the first three the zenith of the demmycrat party?.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    first of all I want to thank you for saying that being "Christian" implies a higher level of morality.....however, "Christian" is a description for someone who believes in Jesus Christ, not for a person who has achieved what you have chosen for your own standards for action.........being "nice" doesn't make you a believer.....especially when you think being "nice" includes encouraging people to kill their children, do drugs and have casual sex........
    So, you just proclaim yourself a follower of Jesus and bam, that’s it, I alway thought when you truly accepted Jesus you became like him, highly moral, and the standards you should follow are Biblical, according to what you have said.

    Ohhhh, casual sex, how horrible! drugs as in alcohol? Don’t you embibe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    So, you just proclaim yourself a follower of Jesus and bam, that’s it,
    obviously no........just proclaiming without actually being is a lib'rul thing, not a Christian thing.......

    Don’t you embibe?
    I can honestly say I have never ever embibed......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    obviously no........just proclaiming without actually being is a lib'rul thing, not a Christian thing.......



    I can honestly say I have never ever embibed......
    How about imbibe? Spelling error

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