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    May 30, 2018 · According to The Atlantic, American atheists are more religious than Christians in a lot of European countries, a Pew Research Center study showed.


    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/pe.../31/id/863495/


    American atheists are more religious than Christians in a lot of European countries, a new study shows.

    Researchers compared a Pew Research Center study of Christian identity in Western Europe, with data previously gathered in the United States, The Atlantic reported.

    Their findings included that Americans are much more religious than Western Europeans, and American "nones" — those who identify as atheist, agnostic, or nothing in particular—are more religious than European "nones."

    But the third finding was the stunner: American "nones" are as religious as — or even more religious than — Christians in several European countries, including France, Germany, and the U.K.

    "That was a surprise," Neha Sahgal, the lead researcher, told The Atlantic. "That's the comparison that's fascinating to me."

    According to Sahgal, 23 percent of European Christians say they believe in God with absolute certainty; 27 percent of American "nones" say that. The survey also found 11 percent of Western Europeans now call themselves "spiritual but not religious."

    Joseph Blankholm, a professor at UC Santa Barbara who focuses on atheism and secularism, told The Atlantic the Cold War is key to understanding why the United States has not secularized as profoundly as Europe has.

    "The 1950s were the most religious America has ever been," he told the outlet. "'In God We Trust' becomes the official national motto. 'Under God' is entered into the pledge of allegiance. That identity is being consciously formed by specific actors like [Presidents Harry] Truman and [Dwight D.] Eisenhower, who are promoting a Christian identity at home and abroad, over against a godless communism. It's the Christianization of America — as a Cold War tool."

    In the new Pew study, 27 percent of Americans call themselves "spiritual but not religious," praying regularly and believing in God, The Atlantic reported.

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    Americans are deeply religious people—and atheists are no exception. Western Europeans are deeply secular people—and Christians are no exception.

    These twin statements are generalizations, but they capture the essence of a fascinating finding in a new study about Christian identity in Western Europe. By surveying almost 25,000 people in 15 countries in the region, and comparing the results with data previously gathered in the U.S., the Pew Research Center discovered three things.

    First, researchers confirmed the widely known fact that, overall, Americans are much more religious than Western Europeans. They gauged religious commitment using standard questions, including “Do you believe in God with absolute certainty?” and “Do you pray daily?”

    Second, the researchers found that American “nones”—those who identify as atheist, agnostic, or nothing in particular—are more religious than European nones. The notion that religiously unaffiliated people can be religious at all may seem contradictory, but if you disaffiliate from organized religion it does not necessarily mean you’ve sworn off belief in God, say, or prayer.

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    https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...stians/560936/

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    More of our Atheists believe in God than more of their Atheists? At least I know where Hillary Clinton's pollsters found work....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    More of our Atheists believe in God than more of their Atheists? At least I know where Hillary Clinton's pollsters found work....
    What? What does a Pew study have to do with Hillary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    What? What does a Pew study have to do with Hillary?
    I said her pollsters...

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    uh dude......if someone says they believe in God, they aren't atheists......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    uh dude......if someone says they believe in God, they aren't atheists......
    I didn't even read Princess kudzu's post. Thanks PostmodernProphet for pointing this out. I don't usually use the word Idiot, ... but in this case it's fitting. (shaking head)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I didn't even read Princess kudzu's post. Thanks PostmodernProphet for pointing this out. I don't usually use the word Idiot, ... but in this case it's fitting. (shaking head)
    I know many atheists who are more christian than so-called "Christians". One does not have to be religious to possess and adhere to moral principles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    I know many atheists who are more christian than so-called "Christians". One does not have to be religious to possess and adhere to moral principles.
    Oh. I AGREE with that 100%.

    Part of 'Christianity is 'Brotherhood' and 'Compassion'. You see these so-called Christians anything but 'Brotherly' and 'Compassionate'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    I know many atheists who are more christian than so-called "Christians". One does not have to be religious to possess and adhere to moral principles.
    I was going to make the same comment.

    I don't think that someone who falls in the category of "none" is necessarily an atheist; it seems to mean only that they don't follow a particular religious sect. Definitely if a person claims to have belief in a god or gods, they are not an a-theist.

    Interesting study though.... confirms what many of us have thought regarding our penchant for trying to insert religion into everything including public life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    uh dude......if someone says they believe in God, they aren't atheists......
    The study is a little more nuanced than Newsmax or Kudzu vine would have you believe. You can access it from the right if you so desire in PDF form from the original source at http://www.pewforum.org/2008/06/01/u...and-practices/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    The study is a little more nuanced than Newsmax or Kudzu vine would have you believe. You can access it from the right if you so desire in PDF form from the original source at http://www.pewforum.org/2008/06/01/u...and-practices/
    That's why I posted a second link to the Atlantic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    That's why I posted a second link to the Atlantic.
    Or you could have just gone to the source...like I did.

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    Atheist: A a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
    “If we have to have a choice between being dead and pitied, and being alive with a bad image, we’d rather be alive and have the bad image.”

    — Golda Meir

    Zionism is the movement for the self-determination and statehood for the Jewish people in their ancestral homeland, the land of Israel.







    ברוך השם

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Atheist: A a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
    Thanks, guno. Does anybody know Arabic so Princess kudzu can understand that 'Atheists' aren't religious.

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