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    Italy will not buy F-35s anymore, mulls walking out of existing contracts – Defense Minister

    https://www.rt.com/news/432071-italy...s-not-anymore/

    The S-400 is the sane move.
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    US law doesn’t apply here’: India’s defense chief resists pressure over S-400 deal with Russia



    American laws are their own matter locally and have nothing to do with India, the country’s defense chief said, refusing to bow to a US sanctions threat over its planned purchase of Russian S-400 air-defense systems.
    New Delhi has relayed to Washington that the threat of unilateral US sanctions will not have an impact on its decision on the possible purchase of S-400 Triumf air defense missile systems from Russia.

    “We have told the US Congress delegation that this is US law and not a UN law,” India's defense minister Nirmala Sitharaman noted, apparently referring to a US federal bill that was implemented in 2017.

    The so-called Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA) mandates the US administration to punish entities engaging in significant transactions with Russia’s defense sector companies.


    https://www.rt.com/news/433013-s-400...law-sanctions/
    Can you believe the staggering arrogance of trying to tell other countries where to shop ?

    The next step from all the Evangelical morons on the hill will be to demand that everybody buys everything from Izrael- or else !

    It's gone way too far. The whole world needs to extricate itself from American/Izraeli blackmail.
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    Turkey is being told the same..No F-35's in their airspace if they buy the S-400

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Turkey is being told the same..No F-35's in their airspace if they buy the S-400
    How can a NATO country buy military hardware from an enemy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    How can a NATO country buy military hardware from an enemy?
    why can't they buy what they want? US ABM's-SAM are inferior

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    How can a NATO country buy military hardware from an enemy?
    There's only an 'enemy ' to profiteering military/industrial complex shills such as yourself, maggot.
    People get along with people just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    why can't they buy what they want? US ABM's-SAM are inferior

    Seriously, you're not stupid do I really have to explain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Seriously, you're not stupid do I really have to explain?
    what info is Russia going to get on F-35 if Turkey uses a Russian SAM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    what info is Russia going to get on F-35 if Turkey uses a Russian SAM?
    Who knows? The ability to reverse engineer at the very least. Look how Russia copied both the Space Shuttle and the Concorde. If Russia deploys the S-400 around the world it will start yet another ramping up of Cold War arms proliferation.
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    so what were the weapons they were using to protect themselves from Hammas aggressors this week?.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Who knows? The ability to reverse engineer at the very least. Look how Russia copied both the Space Shuttle and the Concorde. If Russia deploys the S-400 around the world it will start yet another ramping up of Cold War arms proliferation.
    True enough on the reverse engineering
    but I don't agree staging SAMs worldwide leads to escalated cold war stance/proliferation.

    I'm a lot more concerned about rotating permanent force in Finland and a US base in Poland. (ex.)
    Not getting Donbass into a cease fire - NATO expansion -take your pick of aggravating factors instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    If Russia deploys the S-400 around the world it will start yet another ramping up of Cold War arms proliferation.

    What sort of mentality would object to a purely defensive system ? Oh, wait.............. Haw, haw.......haw.

    You're an objectionable asshole, maggot.
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    Sale of S-400 to Turkey ‘catastrophic for US’ – Pompeo’s assistant

    If Ankara buys the Russian-made S-400 anti-aircraft system, it would be catastrophic for the US and could imply a break-up with Turkey, a newly-picked assistant secretary of state told US lawmakers during confirmation hearings.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/434870-s400-t...rophic-for-us/

    The real concern is that Turkey would have a ' back-door free ' defence system that the US couldn't overcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    What sort of mentality would object to a purely defensive system ? Oh, wait.............. Haw, haw.......haw.

    You're an objectionable asshole, maggot.

    Stick to Joo baiting, military strategy and weapons analysis is not for you.

    Because any aircraft flying within the S-400's reach is vulnerable to attack, NATO fighters flying over their own or friendly territory can be targeted and engaged by the S-400 system on a whim. As such, Russia could make a lot of trouble for aircraft around Kaliningrad if it so wishes. Really, the S-400's emplacement in the heart of Europe has the potential to be one half self defense and one half offense, with a pinch of nagging pestilence. It is the ultimate “we are to be reckoned with” reminder of a weapon system. It is also clear evidence that Russia fears NATO and despises its expansion east since the end of the Cold War.

    https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/ru...ngr-1752792417
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Stick to Joo baiting, military strategy and weapons analysis is not for you.




    https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/ru...ngr-1752792417
    It's spelled ' Jew '- you repugnant old slime-monger- and your announcement that Russia objects to NATO expansionism is a real Daily Mail scoop. Haw, haw.....haw.
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