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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    You sound very scared.
    You sound very ignorant.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Psychoquackery.
    You sound very nuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post

    The S-400 system can simultaneously hit 36 targets within a radius of 400km and an altitude of 27km

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...164732765.html
    This image cracks me up; look at the antiquated radar system on that platform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    What do you think they will buy instead with the money they get for the US breaking the contract ?
    Russia to Turkey: While you’re at it, would you like some jets?
    https://www.defensenews.com/industry...ike-some-jets/
    The Su-35 is a heavy multirole fighter jet and has recently become a popular export item. One of the jet’s standout features is extreme maneuverability. There are several videos online of Su-35s performing the demanding and impressive Pugachev’s Cobra maneuver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    Russia to Turkey: While you’re at it, would you like some jets?
    https://www.defensenews.com/industry...ike-some-jets/
    The Su-35 is a heavy multirole fighter jet and has recently become a popular export item. One of the jet’s standout features is extreme maneuverability. There are several videos online of Su-35s performing the demanding and impressive Pugachev’s Cobra maneuver.
    Old tech; won't last one minute in a fight with the F-35.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Old tech; won't last one minute in a fight with the F-35.
    it's ceertainlynot stealth -but it has much more manuervability then the F-35..

    Obama screwed this all up by refusing to sell Turkey the patriot missile

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/polit...les/index.html
    Trump said the decision to ban F-35 sales was one he was making reluctantly.
    "We are now telling Turkey that because you have really been forced to buy another missile system, we're not going to sell you the F-35 fighter jets," the President said. "It's a very tough situation that they're in and it's a very tough situation that we've been placed in, the United States. With all of that being said, we're working through it, we'll see what happens. But it's not really fair."
    "Because of the fact he bought a Russian missile, we're not allowed to sell him billions of dollars worth of aircraft. It's not a fair situation," Trump continued.

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    The F-35 is about as stealthy as Trump.

    The age of aggressive hardware is over. Attack is not the best means of defense . It's the mantra of idiots.
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    Pompeo warns Turkey not to render S-400 ‘operational’ or face ‘more sanctions’

    The US has advised Turkey not to deploy Russian S-400 systems under the threat of more sanctions, even though the White House has been cautious about punishing its NATO ally which could respond by closing its bases to US troops.


    https://www.rt.com/news/465102-s400-...ctions-pompeo/

    So let's look at the winners and losers here;

    If Turkey buys the S-400 ( and presumably all upgrades ) -which it already has- then the US will break its contract and not supply the F-35s.
    Further, if Turkey actually deploys its purchase- which it is in the process of doing- then the US will 'impose sanctions ' upon its major NATO ally leading to the closure of US bases in Turkey.

    So Turkey gets what is supposedly the best missile defense system that there is , doesn't have to take delivery of a still-suspect aircraft yet gets compensated for the US breaking the contract and, in addition, gets to free itself from the overbearing American military presence.

    The US, on the other hand, loses the sale of a suspect aircraft, loses an important NATO ally, loses its Turkish bases and has to compensate Turkey while also itself suffering the consequences of sanctions and broadcasting to all potential allies and customers that alliance and dollar-trading with the US is probably worse than shoveling your country's independence and financial stability into a cesspit .

    Yeah- we sure won that one. Good businessman, this Trump.
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    Erdogan: Turkey to turn elsewhere if US will not sell F-35s

    Turkish president says the Russian S-400 missile defence system will be operational by 2020.



    The US said last week it was removing NATO ally Turkey from the F-35 programme, as long threatened, after Ankara purchased and received Russian S-400 missile defence systems that Washington sees as a threat.

    The US has also threatened to impose sanctions on Turkey, although Ankara has dismissed the warnings.

    Erdogan said he hoped US officials would be "reasonable" on the question of sanctions, adding that Turkey may also reconsider its purchase of Boeing aircraft from the US.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...122238464.html

    No Boeings ? Haw, haw...........................haw.

    This Erdogan is a clever dude.
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    Erdogan: US scrapping F-35 jet deal with Turkey would be robbery

    Ankara faces new strains in US relationship over upcoming delivery of Russian S-400 missile system.

    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said it would be "robbery" for the United States to deny Turkey the F-35 fighter jets it has bought, according to remarks published in Turkish media.

    "If you have a customer and that customer is making payments like clockwork, how can you not give that customer their goods? The name of that would be robbery," the national Hurriyet newspaper quoted Erdogan as saying on Thursday, as Turkey faces potential US sanctions over its purchase of the Russian S-400 missile system.

    He said that Turkey had so far paid $1.4bn for the F-35s and that four jets had been handed over, with Turkish pilots going to the US for training.

    "We have made an agreement to buy 116 F-35s. We are not just a market, we are also joint producers. We produce some of the parts in Turkey," he added.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...064237370.html
    Erdogan wants his money back- and then some.
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    Beijing warns US of ‘consequences’ if it sells F-16 fighter jets to Taiwan



    China has demanded that US cancel all military sales to Taiwan, otherwise it won’t hesitate to retaliate. The warning came amid the ongoing trade war and the row over the massive Hong Kong protests.
    The White House had greenlighted the sale of 66 F-16 fighter jets to Taiwan over the weekend. This will be the second major arms deal with Taipei approved by Washington since July, when the US authorized the sale of more than 100 M1A2T Abrams tanks, as well as surface-to-air missiles.

    https://www.rt.com/news/466807-china-us-fighter-jets/
    Hypocrites- line up here.

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    ‘Yes, you can buy it’: Putin shows Erdogan Russian 5th gen Su-57 fighter jet (VIDEO)



    A future deal on Russia’s Su-57 fighter jet has seemingly been brought up by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, after his host, President Vladimir Putin, impressed him with the fifth-generation jet at the MAKS 2019 airshow.
    The two leaders inspected a Su-57 and peeked into its cockpit on the ground after attending the opening of the biannual airshow outside Moscow. While the export variant of the 5th-gen fighter is being displayed at the show for the first time, its domestic model entered serial production earlier this year.

    Erdogan wondered if the plane was already airworthy, which the Russian president confirmed. The Turkish leader then asked if it was possible to buy it. Putin responded in affirmative, with the two sharing a laugh thereafter.

    https://www.rt.com/news/467397-putin-erdogan-su57-buy/

    Laugh ? LAUGH ? Haw, haw, haw, haw............................................... .........haw.
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    ‘Erdogan thumbs his nose at Trump’: US senator says Turkey crossed ‘another red line’ with S-400 test, calls for new sanctions



    https://www.rt.com/usa/474350-erdogan-mocks-trump-s400/

    ' ......and if we need to defend ourselves against US-supplied Izraeli F-35s then this is the kit to do it- and we'll use it. So go boil your fat orange head. '


    Haw, haw..................haw.
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    US senators press for Turkey sanctions over Russia missile system
    Under a US law known as CAATSA, states that buy military hardware from Russia must be sanctioned.




    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...070924560.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    'Bye, bye NATO. It has become an aggressive tool of neoZionism anyway.
    NATO is already brain dead. European Army PESCO is established behind the scenes.

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