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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Care to display an instance of me ' acting tough ' , maggot ? .
    I agree with you.......Havana is wrong.......you're a wimpy arsehole here as well........

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    I agree with you.......Havana is wrong.......you're a wimpy arsehole here as well........
    This is moon as a child. It never got better:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    This is moon as a child. It never got better:

    must have been an Israeli cannon.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    must have been an Israeli cannon.......
    That was good!

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    In summary then- a moronic claim by maggot collapses when challenged and disgruntled trolls attempt a shore-up operation. Deja vu again.

    Haw, haw..........haw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    It is now abundantly clear that the pursuit of the SDI project was the straw that broke the camel's back. The jig was up for the Soviet Union, Gorbachev realised that they could never keep up with the US militarily.
    and it did lead to the Patriot defense ( ironic though the S-400 is better)

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    Turkish F-35 pilots no longer flying at US base amid S-400 row

    Washington cancels training of NATO ally's F-35 pilots over Ankara's planned purchase of Russian S-400 missiles.



    The United States has stopped the training of Turkish pilots on F-35 fighters at an airbase in Arizona, US officials said, as Washington winds down Ankara's involvement in the programme over Turkey's plans to buy a Russian air defence system.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...053456408.html

    Aw, sux. They only just had time to complete the parachute course.
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    We will take ‘reciprocal steps’: Turkish FM warns US against any penalties for buying S-400



    Turkey is holding firm in its commitment to honor its purchase of Russian air defense systems, warning the US that it is prepared to take “reciprocal steps” in reply to any sanctions imposed by Washington.
    Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu dismissed as “futile” the US’s continuous efforts to dissuade Turkey from receiving S-400 batteries from Russia, during an interview with Turkish TV on Friday. The minister added that Ankara was steadfast in continuing with the purchase, whatever the consequences.

    When asked about the possibility of a US-imposed sanctions regime against its NATO ally, Cavusoglu said Turkey was prepared to respond.

    If the United States takes any negative actions towards us, we will also take reciprocal steps.

    Tensions between the US government and Turkey over the S-400 have been simmering for months but have taken on a new urgency as Ankara gears up to receive its first deliveries of the system this summer. Washington argues that the incorporation of a Russian-made air defense system into Turkey’s arsenal would compromise the security of the F-35 fighter jet and has threatened to remove Turkey as a program partner. The US has also reportedly failed to respond to Turkish suggestions to form a working group in order to gauge the potential impact of the S-400 on NATO systems.

    On Thursday, Cavusoglu commented on a letter from acting US Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan to Turkey’s defense minister, outlining how Turkey would be ostracized from the F-35 program if it didn’t comply with its demands. “We reject the wording [of] the letter to our defense minister. Nobody can give an ultimatum to Turkey,” he said.

    https://www.rt.com/news/461850-turke...eps-sanctions/
    I wonder what the financial penalties will be for refusing to supply Turkey with an aircraft it doesn't want.
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    Did anybody know that THE CHINESE make the circuit boards for the F35 ?
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    US warns India of ‘serious implications’ if it picks Russian S-400 over American defense promises



    The US-India defense ties will be put at risk should New Delhi purchase Russian S-400 air defense systems, a senior American diplomat warned, noting that India should think very carefully about making such strategic choices.
    “At a certain point, a strategic choice has to be made about partnerships and a strategic choice about what weapons systems and platforms a country is going to adopt,” Alice Wells, US principal deputy assistant secretary for South and Central Asia, said this week at the hearings on US interests in South Asia and the budget for the fiscal year 2020.

    India’s procurement of the S-400s “effectively could limit India’s ability to increase our own interoperability,” she said, explaining that Washington has “serious concerns” about the implications of the $5 billion deal signed with Russia in October on India-US defense ties.

    Washington wants to capture India’s arms market, the diplomat told House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee for Asia, noting that US is now willing to sell equipment that previous administrations had refused to consider.

    https://www.rt.com/news/461917-us-in...-implications/
    Why do you think that the US arms industry is so dead-set against A DEFENSIVE system ?
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    India announces retaliatory trade tariffs against the US



    India has said that, from Sunday, it will impose tariffs on 28 US products, including almonds and apples.

    The new duties, some as high as 70%, are in response to Washington's refusal to exempt Delhi from higher taxes on steel and aluminium imports.

    Earlier this month, US President Trump also announced the US was withdrawing India's preferential trade treatment.

    President Trump has also threatened to impose sanctions if India purchases oil from Iran and if it goes ahead with plans to buy Russian S-400 anti-aircraft missiles.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-48650505

    Who would have thought that an efficient and affordable missile defense system would wreak such havoc between the US and its....er........allies.
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    Done deal: Turkey says it ‘already bought’ Russian S-400 & US sanctions won’t change that



    Nothing the US does will make Turkey abandon its deal with Moscow to purchase S-400 air defense systems, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said, as Washington keeps threatening Ankara with sanctions.

    https://www.rt.com/news/462576-turke...eal-sanctions/

    Sanctions ? Sanctions for using another dealer ? What ? Is Erdogan going to find a horse's head in his bead ? Haw, haw............haw.
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    India to ‘make clear’ to US that S-400 deal with Moscow ‘can’t be wished away’ – report



    New Delhi plans to convince the US to grant it a waiver on buying the S-400 air defense missile systems from Moscow, a report says.
    “We have a longstanding defense relationship with Russia we cannot wish away,” a diplomatic source told NDTV ahead of US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s visit to New Delhi on Tuesday.

    According to the report, it “will be made clear” to Pompeo that India expects to receive a waiver from Washington, allowing the country to acquire Russian arms without the risk of violating US sanctions.

    The $5 billion deal to buy five batteries of Russian-made top-notch S-400 Triumf (Triumph) air defense missile systems was signed by President Vladimir Putin and Prime Minister Narendra Modi in October.

    https://www.rt.com/news/462655-india-s400-mike-pompeo/
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    US threatens Turkey with ‘economic ramifications’ over Russia missile defense deal



    The acting US defense secretary warned his Turkish counterpart that the country’s purchase of the Russian-made S-400 missile defense system will trigger punitive sanctions from Washington.

    https://www.rt.com/news/462752-us-th...s-turkey-s400/
    Intolerable arrogance.
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    Russian S-400 Air Defense System Arrives in Turkey, Defense Ministry Says

    NATO ally U.S. threatened Ankara with sanctions over purchase of Russian system



    Turkey's Defense Ministry said Friday the first shipment of a Russian missile defense system has arrived in Turkey, a development that could move the country closer to U.S. sanctions.

    https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-...ered-1.7494482
    Being ' sanctioned ' by the US has become something of a must-have status symbol- along with the S-Series as a must-have defense system.
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