Spygate: DEMOCRAT hypocrisy in the news

[Darth Omar]

In August/September 2016 Brennan gave classified briefings to the Gang of Eight, the top-ranking Democratic and Republican leaders in the House and Senate. He told them that the CIA and FBI had evidence the Kremlin might be trying to help Trump win the presidency.

But as we know from numerous impartial commentators - Breitbart, American Spectator, National Review, etc - this was a bad thing because it was part of the conspiracy to undermine Trump!

So, IC finally got around to letting congress in on spying/informing on a presidential campaign.

When did they begin again? They keep moving the date.

[Legion]

This informant worked with The Bushes ,Nixon and others. he is a Republican.

So? The spy was paid over a million dollars by the federal government during Obama's Reign of Error, and the Bushes hate Trump.

https://www.usaspending.gov/#/search/98524dd055d3ad9f11813f0e5789ca6b

[Nordberg]

So? The spy was paid over a million dollars by the federal government during Obama's Reign of Error, and the Bushes hate Trump.

https://www.usaspending.gov/#/search/98524dd055d3ad9f11813f0e5789ca6b

Trump was not in politics when the Bush's were in office. Trump was a TV host , or a guy selling his name. The point is the INFORMANT is a Repub and worked for them all.

[Legion]

Trump was not in politics when the Bush's were in office. Trump was a TV host , or a guy selling his name. The point is the INFORMANT is a Repub and worked for them all.

The point is that the spy has been associated with the Bush dynasty for decades and they've hated Trump since he beat Jeb in the primaries. Party affiliation isn't as critical a factor as you seem to think it is, I believe.

[Nordberg]

The point is that the spy has been associated with the Bush dynasty for decades and they've hated Trump since he beat Jeb in the primaries. Party affiliation isn't as critical a factor as you seem to think it is, I believe.

read the title of the thread bonehead. That is the fucking subject of it.

[Legion]

read the title of the thread bonehead. That is the fucking subject of it.

You seem to be upset. I'd think you'd be used to public humiliation by now.

Do you need a moment?

[Tranquillus in Exile]

I fixed it for you!

Spygate: TRUMP FANS' hypocrisy in the news

[domer76]

a) DEMOCRATS demanded the impeachment of a president in 1974 because operatives spied on political opponents
b) DEMOCRATS are denying that spying on political opponents in the present day is wrong.

lol

They planted bugging devices in the DNC headquarters. And, you historical ignoramus, the call for impeaching Nixon was for the coverup, not the burglary. Fucking idiot.

There was no spy. Just Trumptsrd lies and bullshittery.

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Trump was not in politics when the Bush's were in office. Trump was a TV host , or a guy selling his name. The point is the INFORMANT is a Repub and worked for them all.

And that is supposed to mean what exactly? That because he worked for Republicans he couldn’t have possibly had an axe to grind against Trump?


So if he only worked for democrats that would be bad?

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The point is that the spy has been associated with the Bush dynasty for decades and they've hated Trump since he beat Jeb in the primaries. Party affiliation isn't as critical a factor as you seem to think it is, I believe.

Apparently Norbert believes party affiliation dictates all actioons

[Legion]

Apparently Nerdberg believes party affiliation dictates all actions

Binary thinking.

[Legion]

lol They planted bugging devices in the DNC headquarters. And, you historical ignoramus, the call for impeaching Nixon was for the coverup, not the burglary. Fucking idiot. There was no spy. Just Trumptsrd lies and bullshittery.

Looks like denying DEMOCRATS desperately want to cover up the spying on Trump. Impeach Obama?

Loser.

[Legion]

lol They planted bugging devices in the DNC headquarters. And, you historical ignoramus, the call for impeaching Nixon was for the coverup, not the burglary. Fucking idiot. There was no spy. Just Trumptsrd lies and bullshittery.

Looks like denying DEMOCRATS desperately want to cover up the spying on Trump. Impeach Obama?

Loser.

[Nordberg]

Our modern form of government does make technocrats a force to be reckoned with, and they abide supervision and oversight only by other progressives.

When a constitutionalist has the temerity to observe that technocrats are subordinate to executive political leadership and must answer to the legislature that created and funds their agencies, they brood about their “independence.”

In their minds, they are an unaccountable fourth branch of government — at least until their fellow non-ideological pragmatists return to power.

For this species of arrogance, setting the narrative is a jealously guarded prerogative. We are to understand the bureaucracy’s work as unimpeachably noble and that so, therefore, are its tactics. Consequently, the government’s “cooperator” is never to be called a spy.

He’s a “confidential informant” or, as James Comey put it, a “confidential human source.”

These are not neutral terms. The implication is that these operatives are always benign, even vital.

A “source” is that most treasured of intelligence assets, to be protected at all costs — even the need for accountability when power is abused must give way to the confidentiality of intelligence “methods and sources.” “Source” connotes a well-placed asset who has bored into the inner sanctum of jihadists or gangsters — an “informant” whose information saves lives.

But there is another side of the story.

By and large, “confidential informants” do not emerge from the womb with a passion to protect the United States.

Quite often, they become informants because they’ve gotten themselves jammed up with the police. Some are sociopaths: shrewd enough to know that the only way out of either a long prison term or a short life expectancy is to become the government’s eyes and ears; self-aware enough to know that, in undercover work, bad character, mendacity, and survival instincts are tools of the trade.

Not many Mother Teresas can infiltrate hostile foreign powers, drug cartels, and organized-crime networks.

According to the government, these effective but unsavory operatives are “confidential human sources,” too. To the rest of us, spy may be too nice a word for them. The printable labels are more like “snitch,” “rat,” “Judas,” etc. “

Many spies are real heroes. The CIA’s operations directorate performs the most commendable feats of valor — the kind that can never be celebrated, or even spoken of; the kind that are memorialized at Langley only by stars carved into a cold marble wall — now, 125 of them. Where would we be without FBI and DEA agents who bravely accept undercover assignments, at great strain on their families and their well-being, to take down society’s worst predators? And many informants, though they may not risk their lives the same way, patriotically serve their country by volunteering critical intelligence they come upon through their professions and their travels.

In the Trump–Russia affair, officials of the Obama-era intelligence agencies suggest that there are grounds to believe that the Trump campaign was in a traitorous conspiracy with the Kremlin. On what grounds?

They’d rather not say. You’ll just have to trust them.

It is not about who the spies are. It is about why they were spying.

In our democratic republic, there is an important norm against an incumbent administration’s use of government’s enormous intelligence-gathering capabilities to — if we may borrow a phrase — interfere in an election. To justify disregarding that norm would require strong evidence of egregious wrongdoing. Enough bobbing and weaving.

Let’s see the evidence.


https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/obama-administration-politicized-intelligence-law-enforcement-apparatus/

That is the point of Muellers investigation. Did you suddenly figure that out? The informant was not working for Muellers investigation., by the way Lets see it? When Mueller is done it will be more public. I would not be surprised if Trumps people would want to keep it in the dark. But some obscure dork on the net is not proivy to Muellers information or conclusionms while an investigation is going on. Don't you even know that?

[Legion]

That is the point of Muellers investigation. Did you suddenly figure that out? The informant was not working for Muellers investigation., by the way Lets see it? When Mueller is done it will be more public. I would not be surprised if Trumps people would want to keep it in the dark. But some obscure dork on the net is not proivy to Muellers information or conclusionms while an investigation is going on. Don't you even know that?

A lot of assertions on your part. You seem rattled. Need a moment?