evince (05-27-2018), Rat Robbersson (05-28-2018)
Hello hvilleherb,
It is well known that some Trump supporters would support him even if it is proven that he is a dirty dealer. They simply don't care and would look the other way. Look at all they have accepted so far!
Regardless of that fact:
75% of the Republican Party is not enough to maintain political power. It took everything they had to just barely squeak by with the 2016 election. And even then, the Democrats had 3 million more votes.
Also, it is highly likely that if serious charges come out that many will turn on Trump. Those possible charges are not known at this time, so current polls cannot show what would occur in that event.
It is entirely likely that if serious charges come out, and tentative supporters begin to run away from the president, that the president could be impeached. That could happen before the election. Can you say 'blue wave?'
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evince (05-27-2018), Rat Robbersson (05-28-2018)
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Rat Robbersson (05-28-2018)
We have the intellect to imagine the finality of our own demise but do not have the sophistication to overcome our survival instinct and accept it.
Solution? Magical thinking and childish promises of everlasting life.
Ergo, religion.
rac·ist
rāsəst/noun
a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
Ask yourself honestly if this describes what you believe to be true.
If the answer is yes, you are a racist.
Rat Robbersson (05-28-2018)
Good morning ptif219,
How do you know that?
That makes no sense to me. I disagree. If he had nothing then why is the investigation ongoing, and why does he seek to question the President?
Mueller has already brought very serious charges against several key people form the Trump administration. Do you not believe this? Serious charges against key upper level people in the Trump administration is not 'nothing.' How do you rectify a belief that this is 'nothing?'
It has been shown that Russia manipulated our election process to help Trump get elected.
It has been shown that there were contacts between the Trump team and high level Russian operatives close to Putin.
Trump barely squeaked by in the election after most people and the polls believed Hillary would be the likely winner. It suggests the election was influenced by outside sources.
Do you deny any/all of that?
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christiefan915 (05-28-2018), Rat Robbersson (05-28-2018)
Hello ptif219,
We will have to disagree on that. He lost the popular vote, barely getting victory (by only a percent or two) in FL and PA. If those TWO states had gone the other way, Trump would have lost the election. Most people would call that squeaking by.
Do you consider it a landslide?
How could it be a 'landslide' if he has less than half the nation's approval?
People who win by a landslide enjoy a wide popularity.
Or do you explain that by believing the polls are wrong...
Perhaps you are one who holds the belief that the President is actually much more popular than the polls indicate? That, once the 'fake mainstream news' is discounted for 'lying like they do,' that the President is actually supported, loved and appreciated by the majority of the nation?
Do you believe most people really do support the President?
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Rat Robbersson (05-28-2018)
Hello ptif219,
I agree that voters should be required to identify themselves, but should we make that identification process so difficult to follow that many poor people of limited resources are actually thus prevented from voting?
Do we also need to shorten early voting periods so that it is less convenient to vote?
Do we also need to reduce the number of hours that polling stations are open in poor black neighborhoods?
Should we have an ample supply of the newest and best functioning voting machines in rich white Republican majority neighborhoods but have only a few old cantankerous voting machines in poor black neighborhoods such that those people have to wait in long lines while the rich white Republicans breeze in and out of their precinct voting places?
Do we also need to strike legal voters from voting rolls because their name matches that of a convicted felon? So if a Luther Washington commits a crime in one State, then everyone named Luther Washington in another State should automatically be prevented from voting?
Do we also need to prevent convicted felons from ever regaining their right to vote, thus punishing them for life, even after they have served their full court adjudicated sentence and completed their debt to society, as is done in Florida and a only a handful of other States?
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