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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump told Lesley Stahl when asked why he lies "I do it to discredit you and demean you all. And then when you write something negative about me, nobody will believe you". It certainly works on low information voters". There is a legion of Trumplestilskins here that are in his control.
    That's crazy........

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Nope. He's lying. Again.
    Fabricating the Gulf of Tonkin incident as Johnson did is lying. Saying that you were shot at, as Ma Clinton did, is also lying!!

    https://amp.theguardian.com/commenti...-wage-war-iraq

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-sniper-story/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Fabricating the Gulf of Tonkin incident as Johnson did is lying. Saying that you were shot at, as Ma Clinton did, is also lying!!

    https://amp.theguardian.com/commenti...-wage-war-iraq

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-sniper-story/
    You're making excuses for Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    You're making excuses for Trump.
    No, I am putting it into the right context. You are the one with a visceral hatred for the man, I can't stand him personally but like many of his policies. When did it first happen that you had to like a politician to vote for them? Both the Clinton's are amoral sociopaths yet people were fooled by them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    No, I am putting it into the right context. You are the one with a visceral hatred for the man, I can't stand him personally but like many of his policies. When did it first happen that you had to like a politician to vote for them? Both the Clinton's are amoral sociopaths yet people were fooled by them.
    What policies? He lies constantly, takes credit for the work of others and takes bows before the deal is done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    What policies? He lies constantly, takes credit for the work of others and takes bows before the deal is done.
    Sounds very much like a politician to me! This guy seems to get why there is such a visceral hatred for Trump.

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/25-re...mp-jesse-gomez
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    No, I am putting it into the right context. You are the one with a visceral hatred for the man, I can't stand him personally but like many of his policies. When did it first happen that you had to like a politician to vote for them? Both the Clinton's are amoral sociopaths yet people were fooled by them.

    Your assertion that Trump is as good as Clinton and LBJ is probably correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    Your assertion that Trump is as good as Clinton and LBJ is probably correct
    Certainly no different, as far as I can see.

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    Ok, now can you admit all lying is bad and not a desirable predominate trait in any leader?
    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Fabricating the Gulf of Tonkin incident as Johnson did is lying. Saying that you were shot at, as Ma Clinton did, is also lying!!

    https://amp.theguardian.com/commenti...-wage-war-iraq

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-sniper-story/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    No, I am putting it into the right context. You are the one with a visceral hatred for the man, I can't stand him personally but like many of his policies. When did it first happen that you had to like a politician to vote for them? Both the Clinton's are amoral sociopaths yet people were fooled by them.
    awesome. well said. Iv'e grown to like the guy because of what he's trying to do. MAGA is not just talk.

    He misspeaks. the TDS crowd jumps in and screams "lies" -who the hell cares what those blithering idiots say either ?

    If I wanted a smooth talker I'd look elsewhere. talking isn't policy. Policies matter. talking not much. America First.

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    Misspeaks? Biggest crowd in the history of crowds? He is a damn liar. Just admit, say it over and over to yourself till you really understand, TRUMP IS A LIAR.
    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    awesome. well said. Iv'e grown to like the guy because of what he's trying to do. MAGA is not just talk.

    He misspeaks. the TDS crowd jumps in and screams "lies" -who the hell cares what those blithering idiots say either ?

    If I wanted a smooth talker I'd look elsewhere. talking isn't policy. Policies matter. talking not much. America First.
    Be Best

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    awesome. well said. Iv'e grown to like the guy because of what he's trying to do. MAGA is not just talk.

    He misspeaks. the TDS crowd jumps in and screams "lies" -who the hell cares what those blithering idiots say either ?

    If I wanted a smooth talker I'd look elsewhere. talking isn't policy. Policies matter. talking not much. America First.

    What policies? Trump just shoots from the hip.

    Look at what his withdrawing from the Iranian agreement has done.

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    Who Was Buying Iranian Oil And What Happens Next? | OilPrice.com

    https://oilprice.com › Energy › Crude Oil

    May 9, 2018 - With President Trump's withdrawal from the Iranian nuclear deal, many oil importing countries will be potentially left without their key supplier.

    With Trump having started the 6 month process of pulling out from the Iranian nuclear deal (or rather as Steven Mnuchin admitted, Trump's true intention is merely renegotiating the existing deal and "entering a new agreement") the biggest concern among traders and analysts is what impact the Trump decision will have on Iran's oil exports.

    As a reminder, some such as Barclays have suggested that Iran's oil production may not be affected at all; others such as UBS predict the sanctions could lead to the reduction of oil exports by 200-500kb/d over the next 6 months. Meanwhile, Deutsche Bank notes that because of the 180-day wind down period, neither Iranian oil production nor exports will drop before the 5 November 2018 effective date. In fact, if behavior follows the example from 2012, there is the possibility of a short spike in Iranian exports just before the effective date, after which a slow decline may set in.

    As Goldman explained this morning, the final impact on Iran oil will likely be somewhere in between, with the ultimate impact on Iran production rather negligible for the foreseeable future. The reason for that is that following the announcement, other signatories of the deal reiterated their support for the agreement as well as their desire to revisit it.

    President Macron said that France, Germany and the UK regretted the decision and the EU vowed to uphold the Iran nuclear accord. Russia announced that the U.S. alone would not be able to overturn the deal and its Deputy Foreign Minister said it was willing to support France's proposal for new negotiations. At the same time, Iran announced that it will remain in the nuclear deal and will start talks with European nations, China, and Russia.

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    https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oi...pens-Next.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    What policies? Trump just shoots from the hip.

    Look at what his withdrawing from the Iranian agreement has done.
    his deregulations. tax reform, trimming back the EPA from WOTUS type horrors. His foreign policy work has been outstanding so far.
    it makes a difference

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    Russian sanctions cannot be helping, although I haven't looked at the oil/nat gas situation in awhile.

    Too focused on Spygate ;it makes Watergate look like a walk in the park
    Kissinger: “demonization of Vladimir Putin is not a policy; it is an alibi for the absence of one.”
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