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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Nearly anyone who wants a weapon can get one, check out Craiglst for weapons, hell, even an individual on a terror watch list can obtain one legally

    My solution I've offered umpteen times, and I'll even give you a condensed version again, treat all guns as we do vehicles, they have to be registered and in time reregistered, you need a liscense involving training and a test, liability insurance is required on each weapon, etc.. Create common sense hurdles to weapons that create responsibility

    Anticipating the next question, would it have stopped this shooting, perhaps if it was enacted five years ago, and it doesn't involve confiscating anything nor eliminate the supposed "right" to own a weapon, no right is absolute
    Great idea register guns. That will stop kids using dad's legally registered guns to shoot up a school. And let's not forget those who don't plan on surviving their mass shooting plan, registering their guns will really help. No background checks and closing loopholes is the only realistic answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Badguy View Post
    Your second grade teacher taught you that, and not grammar?
    haha ... one of the things I remember from school. Usually they try to indoctrinate you to conform to the prevailing Government storyline, but this made me feel like an American. You, probably being from Canada, don't understand that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    haha ... one of the things I remember from school. Usually they try to indoctrinate you to conform to the prevailing Government storyline, but this made me feel like an American. You, probably being from Canada, don't understand that.
    American, southern, in fact. Canada is great though, it gave us so many comedy greats including my favorite show of all time, The Kids in the Hall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle Eye View Post
    Great idea register guns. That will stop kids using dad's legally registered guns to shoot up a school. And let's not forget those who don't plan on surviving their mass shooting plan, registering their guns will really help. No background checks and closing loopholes is the only realistic answer.
    When the kids father gets hit with astronomical insurance bills it certainly will remind the next father to better secure his toys

    Why would you have to close loopholes if there are no background checks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    They want to "make it tough" on daddy, you know.



    Not a single gun-grabber has been able to give a satisfactory answer to my questions.



    Hilariously naïve. Insurance and registration haven't stopped auto theft. What makes you think it would stop gun theft?

    Kids illegally obtain drugs, tobacco products, alcohol, and stolen goods from "street thugs" every day. That may include guns. Your scheme can't prevent theft and criminal resale, can it?



    Really? What's the probable cause for police checking to see if you have a gun, and if it's yours, and if it's registered, and if it's licensed and insured, and you are up-to-date on training?

    That's a Fourth Amendment nightmare.

    Step up, gun-grabbers.
    If it becomes tough on one daddy the next daddy will make damn sure his toys as secured so junior can't get access

    It is common sense that if you create hurdles less people are going to spend the time, money and effort to build an arsenal.

    Plus none of it may work, but any attempt merits consideration considering what we have now that is giving us a monthly school shooting. Better than your solution, more guns, as I've noted if that worked we should be the safest nation in the world by far considering the number of guns out there now

    And I haven't seen any question you have ever raised

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    I'm probably way behind on this portion of the discussion but just saw the kid used two handguns. So the whole M.O. has been to ban assault rifles. Admittedly I don't know my guns all that well but I don't believe handguns qualify as assault rifles.

    Not being a gun owner I don't know quite how this works. I assume one doesn't just leave their guns laying out at home. But I would also assume if you take them apart and store them it kind of defeats the purpose of having them for self defense. I can't imagine a robber/mugger being willing to wait while the owner assembles their gun to shoot at them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaya View Post
    That would not have stopped this shooting.
    No, but it such was enacted five years ago it might have

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    Quote Originally Posted by anchovies View Post
    If it becomes tough on one daddy the next daddy will make damn sure his toys as secured so junior can't get access
    How's that theory working with cars, since you think that's the model for gun control? Cars are registered and insured, and require training and a license, plus you need a key. Kids find ways to steal their parents cars and wreck them anyway.

    You still haven't answered my questions. I think I know why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anchovies View Post
    No, but it such was enacted five years ago it might have
    If horses had wings they could fly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    When the kids father gets hit with astronomical insurance bills it certainly will remind the next father to better secure his toys

    Why would you have to close loopholes if there are no background checks?
    So your answer is to just punish the parent because his kid broke the law by shooting someone. How many people drive every day with no drivers license nor car insurance? Do you think people would comply with that law when they ignore auto laws?
    You really do wear rose colored glasses.
    That was a typo it is supposed to say "No, background checks and closing loop holes is the only answer."
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
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    Becoming as American as apple pie

    Said before, there are three elements in any shooting; the shooter, the weapon, and the target

    Highly improbable that we will ever be able to do anything about identifying the shooter before it happens, nor do we have any idea what the next target will be, but we do have some control over the weapon utilized, it is all about access, and in the United States we have too easy access to too many guns

    And you better save some of those "prayers and condolences" because it sure as hell is going to happen again
    More blood on the hands of every single Trumpkin who refuses to discuss common sense regulation.

    Shameful!
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Nearly anyone who wants a weapon can get one, check out Craiglst for weapons, hell, even an individual on a terror watch list can obtain one legally

    My solution I've offered umpteen times, and I'll even give you a condensed version again, treat all guns as we do vehicles, they have to be registered and in time reregistered, you need a liscense involving training and a test, liability insurance is required on each weapon, etc.. Create common sense hurdles to weapons that create responsibility

    Anticipating the next question, would it have stopped this shooting, perhaps if it was enacted five years ago, and it doesn't involve confiscating anything nor eliminate the supposed "right" to own a weapon, no right is absolute
    The day this happens is the day I become a criminal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle Eye View Post
    Background checks and closing loop hole is the only answer.
    That's fine, until someone steals the gun and uses it to commit a crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    More blood on the hands of every single Trumpkin who refuses to discuss common sense regulation.

    Shameful!
    What are "common sense regulations" in your mind?

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