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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    In your last post you suggested the owners are "...capitalists, trying to make as much out of their business as they can."

    Now you are saying that perhaps it is a load of horse manure to suppose, as Poli did, that "the best football teams are filled with blacks who can play better than them?"

    The owners will play the best athletes for the positions...and the bottom line is that about 70% are filled with black players...although whites are much more numerous than blacks.


    Seems to be a disconnect there.
    If there is it escapes me.

    Pro sports is 100% meritocracy. Unless NFL owners are in the business of losing, they are going to pay for the best athletes they can afford to pay. If they care about race, no one can tell, because it’s all about winning games and strengthening the franchise.

    Are you suggesting whites should file a racial discrimination suit against the league lol? What do you deduce from the fact no white people do that?
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    Mama don't want no black folks protestin' 'round here!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Mama don't want no black folks protestin' 'round here!
    What if you went into a place of business and the employee you dealt with wanted to tell you how great Trump was instead of providing you with a service?

    Should the manager be able to fire him? Why am I certain you’d be ok with it if the manager did just that lol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Mama don't want no black folks protestin' 'round here!
    Not during the anthem

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Mama don't want no black folks protestin' 'round here!
    She doesn't? Why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    Not during the anthem
    I could have sworn I saw players of many differing ethnicities kneeling in protest last season. Did someone's mama say only the Black players should stop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    If there is it escapes me.

    Pro sports is 100% meritocracy. Unless NFL owners are in the business of losing, they are going to pay for the best athletes they can afford to pay. If they care about race, no one can tell, because it’s all about winning games and strengthening the franchise.

    Are you suggesting whites should file a racial discrimination suit against the league lol? What do you deduce from the fact no white people do that?
    You are correct.

    It escaped you.

    In one post you are saying the owners will do whatever it takes to win and be profitable.

    Poli pointed out that most of the athletes are blacks...and that white envy might be a player.

    You suggested that was horse shit.

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    Mama don't want no BODY protestin no Civil Rights roun' HERE.

    Ain't gonna have none 'o THAT nonsense.

    Ya'll just be GOOD and SHUT UP about no CIVIL RIGHTS.

    Just SHUT UP and PLAY FOOTBALL.

    We don't wanna HEAR about no CIVIL RIGHTS.

    We tryin to have a GOOD TIME watchin' dem folk git concussions and Dain Bramage.

    We didn't pay for no high priced tickets to get reminded 'o what we tryin ta FORGET.

    Shut up and play ball.

    Our money is worth more than their lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    What if you went into a place of business and the employee you dealt with wanted to tell you how great Trump was instead of providing you with a service?

    Should the manager be able to fire him? Why am I certain you’d be ok with it if the manager did just that lol?
    Of course your point has a modicum of validity, but only in the narrow scope of your anecdote.

    Should an employer be able to force you to recite the pledge, or stand for the anthem every day when you arrive to work?

    How about salute a Nazi flag?

    How about praise a deity that you don't believe in?
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    One thing for sure...a word of advice, if I may.

    For those people who will not be attending or watching any NFL games because of the protests or because of the league's reaction to the protests...

    ...be careful of the door as you leave.

    Wouldn't want it to hit you in the ass.

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    It's really 2 completely different viewpoints on patriotism.

    I think dissent IS patriotic. Dissent is what made the country what it is today - starting w/ "no taxation without representation," all the way through freeing the slaves, women's suffrage, worker's rights, antiwar movements, civil rights, and dozens of other instances where people spoke up & acted up to effect positive change.

    Trump isn't about that. I consider Trump to be very anti-American - he doesn't support, encourage & celebrate our traditional rights & freedoms. He sees them as a threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    Libs....Kneeling During Anthem, Good
    Kneeling To Pray, Bad
    Even the Bible says don't pray in a front of men but to go away by yourself in private...so...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Got69ed View Post
    Even the Bible says don't pray in a front of men but to go away by yourself in private...so...?
    Is that why you lied about what Tim Tebow supposedly told you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha68 View Post
    Even the Bible says don't pray in a front of men but to go away by yourself in private...so...?
    Out of context without full reason as usual, LOL
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    It's really 2 completely different viewpoints on patriotism. I think dissent IS patriotic. Dissent is what made the country what it is today - starting w/ "no taxation without representation," all the way through freeing the slaves, women's suffrage, worker's rights, antiwar movements, civil rights, and dozens of other instances where people spoke up & acted up to effect positive change. Trump isn't about that. I consider Trump to be very anti-American - he doesn't support, encourage & celebrate our traditional rights & freedoms. He sees them as a threat.
    You're overlooking the possibility that many people could be pretending to care about the kneelers because they hate Trump, aren't you?

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