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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Out of context without full reason as usual, LOL
    What does the Bible say about lying?

    If someone makes up a story and claims Tim Tebow related that story to them, are they a liar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Of course your point has a modicum of validity, but only in the narrow scope of your anecdote. Should an employer be able to force you to recite the pledge, or stand for the anthem every day when you arrive to work?
    How about salute a Nazi flag? How about praise a deity that you don't believe in?
    Nobody is being forced to do anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    You are correct.

    It escaped you.

    In one post you are saying the owners will do whatever it takes to win and be profitable.

    Poli pointed out that most of the athletes are blacks...and that white envy might be a player.

    You suggested that was horse shit.
    And horse shit it remains.

    Who is envious of being white?
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    What does the Bible say about lying?

    If someone makes up a story and claims Tim Tebow related that story to them, are they a liar?
    I didn't make it up. I was misinformed, checked my source, realized I was misinformed and took back my statement. More than most on here would admit to.

    If it makes you feel better to call me a liar then so be it.

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    NFL owners are making a business decision. Players can try to negotiate it out, but under the terms they currently sign on for the owners have a business right to ban kneeling on the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Got69ed View Post
    I didn't make it up. I was misinformed, checked my source, realized I was misinformed and took back my statement. More than most on here would admit to. If it makes you feel better to call me a liar then so be it.
    You lied about the source of your statement.

    You said Tim Tebow was your source. That was a lie, and you haven't taken that back, have you?

    Confess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    And horse shit it remains.

    Who is envious of being white?
    The race baiting is palpable.

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    No more NFL football for Colin Kaepernick...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    It's really 2 completely different viewpoints on patriotism.

    I think dissent IS patriotic. Dissent is what made the country what it is today - starting w/ "no taxation without representation," all the way through freeing the slaves, women's suffrage, worker's rights, antiwar movements, civil rights, and dozens of other instances where people spoke up & acted up to effect positive change.

    Trump isn't about that. I consider Trump to be very anti-American - he doesn't support, encourage & celebrate our traditional rights & freedoms. He sees them as a threat.
    As usual, you take the darkest view of Trump as possible in your analysis and it leads you astray.

    If Trump is being cynical, it’s that he sees an issue that is a political winner so he positions himself accordingly. And he does this consistently: he did it mostly recently when he called MS-13, animals. The leftists in the media were triggered by the comment [many even going as far as to lie about what Trump said]; Trump’s instincts about how a majority of Americans feel about the issue are dead-on—so he doubled down on it.

    And he does this sort of thing to the left ALL THE TIME lol.

    Whether Trump truly cares about disrespecting the flag and/or the anthem or not is politically irrelevant—because he’s on the right side of the issue in that sense.

    The man overcame the odds to be elected president for a reason.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    As usual, you take the darkest view of Trump as possible in your analysis and it leads you astray.

    If Trump is being cynical, it’s that he sees an issue that is a political winner so he positions himself accordingly. And he does this consistently: he did it mostly recently when he called MS-13, animals. The leftists in the media were triggered by the comment [many even going as far as to lie about what Trump said]; Trump’s instincts about how a majority of Americans feel about the issue are dead-on—so he doubled down on it.

    And he does this sort of thing to the left ALL THE TIME lol.

    Whether Trump truly cares about disrespecting the flag and/or the anthem or not is politically irrelevant—because he’s on the right side of the issue in that sense.

    The man overcame the odds to be elected president for a reason.
    That's all it is for him - red meat for his base. A good line at rallies.

    No one is more cynical than Trump. He is not a patriot. He overcame the odds because people are gullible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    That's all it is for him - red meat for his base. A good line at rallies.

    No one is more cynical than Trump. He is not a patriot. He overcame the odds because people are gullible.
    Go ahead and finish your thought lol...and they are Deplorable for being against the kneelers and are probably racist yada, yada, yada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Go ahead and finish your thought lol...and they are Deplorable for being against the kneelers and are probably racist yada, yada, yada.
    Some are racist for sure. And I don't think a lot of them understand what it means to be American.

    I don't have much respect for Trump supporters in general. Trump is a complete con man - as obvious as it gets. And most don't see that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    He overcame the odds because people are gullible.
    I thought it was supposed to be because the Russians stole the election for him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Some are racist for sure. And I don't think a lot of them understand what it means to be American.

    I don't have much respect for Trump supporters in general. Trump is a complete con man - as obvious as it gets. And most don't see that.
    They see it just fine. They just ignore it because Trump represents them in the deepest sense, more so than any other politician who comes to mind. It's now okay to be openly racist, supportive of white supremacists including Nazis, disdainful of immigrants, denigrating towards women, pseudo-Christian, dishonest, unfaithful, obese, and filled with rage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    They see it just fine. They just ignore it because Trump represents them in the deepest sense, more so than any other politician who comes to mind. It's now okay to be openly racist, supportive of white supremacists including Nazis, disdainful of immigrants, denigrating towards women, pseudo-Christian, dishonest, unfaithful, obese, and filled with rage.
    The "filled with rage" part is always eye opening. Trump supporters appear to have gotten everything they ever wanted in a president but boy do they come off as some rage filled people. Why?

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