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"If no one has the choice but to jump to their feet every time they hear the national anthem, then you don't live in the "land of the free" and if no one has the guts to take a knee during the national anthem then you don't live in the "home of the brave"".
K. Scott Shaeffer
christiefan915 (05-25-2018), Frank Apisa (05-25-2018), ThatOwlWoman (05-25-2018)
Insane Level of Addiction
Protected by what or whom?Originally Posted by Frank Apisa
Catalyst
“What greater gift than the love of a cat.”
― Charles Dickens
Catalyst
Symbolic speech. Protected under the First.
“What greater gift than the love of a cat.”
― Charles Dickens
Insane Level of Addiction
I'm sure its been discussed earlier and I missed it so I apologize but if speech is determined to be detrimental to an employer the government still protects it over the wishes of the employer?
Leftist Vermin
Yes. They rail against NK and Iran -- yet would love nothing better than to turn America into a duplicate.... with those who espouse their backwards and archaic beliefs in charge, of course.
Frank Apisa (05-26-2018)
Russian asset
Unless the players have something pertaining to it in their contract they’re unprotected.
It’s not a First Amendment issue.
Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017
Leftist Vermin
As is true with a lot of things in case law, it depends.
https://corporate.findlaw.com/law-li...revisited.html
https://www.americanbar.org/publicat...er-cooler.html
christiefan915 (05-25-2018), Frank Apisa (05-26-2018)
Catalyst
From what I've read there's no one size fits all answer. Here's a decent article on the subject. https://www.creators.com/read/judge-...otected-speech
trump should have learned this before opening his big fat piehole and spouting off.
"In the famous flag burning cases a few years ago, the Supreme Court made clear that in America, we have no revered symbols that command orthodox respect. The flag itself represents the right to treat it as one wishes. We are free to respect the flag and to shun those who do not, but we may not harm a hair on their heads."
“What greater gift than the love of a cat.”
― Charles Dickens
Frank Apisa (05-26-2018), ThatOwlWoman (05-25-2018)
Catalyst
Ha ha, great minds...
“What greater gift than the love of a cat.”
― Charles Dickens
ThatOwlWoman (05-25-2018)
Leftist Vermin
Hope you-know-who doesn't see this; she already thinks we're socks of each other. lol
Catalyst
I know, that's hilarious. I burst out laughing, not that I wouldn't want to have your smarts!
“What greater gift than the love of a cat.”
― Charles Dickens
ThatOwlWoman (05-25-2018)
Leftist Vermin
Aw thanks. You have plenty of your own, along with the Valkyrie 'tude and take-no-crap demeanor!
Verified User
Curious if you all would get upset if Amish or Jehovas Witness were at a game and didn't stand for the anthem or salute the flag?
Oh wait, I'm sure the "let them stay home" or "why are they even there" crew will be along shortly.
Oderint dum metuant
The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution says that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
The first thing to know about the First Amendment is that it is a limit only on government.
It prohibits the federal government from making laws that infringe on the rights of religion, speech, press, assembly and petition.
Through the Fourteenth Amendment, state and local governments are also prohibited from infringing on these rights.
https://www.workplacefairness.org/retaliation-public-employees
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