Trump grovels to Kim Jong

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That's ridiculous. Trump doesn't have a clue about what he's doing. He's put his own dumb ass in the position where he wants this meeting more than Kim.

“TRUMP IS JUST A MORON”: HOW THE PRESIDENT PLAYED HIMSELF ON NORTH KOREA
The Kim regime hasn’t changed its position—the president is just finally paying attention.

In his rush to reach a disarmament agreement with North Korea, Donald Trump appears to have badly misjudged his adversary, Kim Jong Un. As multiple State Department sources have told me, U.S. demands that North Korea give up its nuclear weapons were always going to be a nonstarter for Kim. Nevertheless, Trump appeared to misinterpret Kim’s overtures, relayed via South Korean President Moon Jae-in, that he would unilaterally disarm, and was reportedly “surprised” and “angered” last week when North Korea’s chief nuclear negotiator released a statement to that effect. According to The New York Times, Trump now believes he may have made a mistake in agreeing to meet with Kim, and worries that the summit could become a political embarrassment. “It doesn’t look like they want to denuclearize at all,” one U.S. official told The Washington Post, after Trump made a frantic call to Moon. “The North’s attitude is a pretty long distance away from what it appeared to be as Moon portrayed.”

Diplomats and North Korea experts, however, say this was entirely predictable. “Kim Jong Un has not offered to give up his nuclear weapons. He has not done that. He has never said anything remotely close to that,” Jeffrey Lewis, the director of the East Asia Nonproliferation Program at Middlebury College, told me recently. “What he has said is that he is willing to endorse the kind of vague principle of the elimination of nuclear weapons.” But Trump, in his excitement over the prospect of a Nobel Peace Prize, inflated his expectations for the June 12 summit. As Korea expert Victor Cha noted, Kim had “not even reaffirmed the more definitive statements about denuclearization that were used by the North Koreans in the past,” during previous negotiations with Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. “It all sounds good if you are not aware of what North Korea’s strategy is. North Korea in the end, they do want a peace treaty, and they do want normalization, but they want those things as a nuclear-weapon state. . . . They’re willing to part with some of their capability, but they’re certainly not willing to part with all of it.”
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018...un-north-korea

With all due respect, surely you should know better.

Whiny brain dead leftist liar with a severe case of TDS and stupid. Yep, in brain dead America hating liberal land, Kim good and is smart and Trump is evil.

WARNING…….Trump Derangement Syndrome.…….WARNING!

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:0) "Forgo" A peace prize was never coming that knucklehead's way. Now you know.

Another whiny lying liberal who doesn't know the South Korean President said that. But heck, what do the South Koreans know about Kim right?

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They do .. and they just explained it to you.

As the adage goes .. you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

I've already said many times already it's up to Kim to grow up and make the deal. And, Trump has said many times for the last 2 years that he'll see when and if a meeting and deal is arranged...if it's good, fine...if it's not, he'll walk. Gotta wait and see.

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Bullshit!

Ahhhh....because you say so right?

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He always believes things will be easier than they are, like healthcare, it would be amusing if it weren’t for our national security.

There's no truth to this. But I am fascinated when lying brain dead clueless leftists divine what Trump thinks or believes.

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Ahhhh....because you say so right?

No. Because, on this issue, you are full of shit.

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Except they aren’t now, did you miss that?

Brain dead dunce on steroids is predicting/hoping for failure.

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Trump and Moon got played pure and simple. Denuclearization was NEVER on the table. Are you of the opinion that Kim and the entire world needed Bolton to bring up Libya for them to already know about it .. AND what happened to Saddam?

“The North’s attitude is a pretty long distance away from what it appeared to be as Moon portrayed.”

This is the same game that has been played by NK for many years .. but given that Trump is an idiot who doesn't know shit about history, who but a Trump supporter would expect anything else?

^This is your brain on moron; don't be one.

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No. Because, on this issue, you are full of shit.

Really; what part? Be specific. Is it the part where I laughed at your moronic claim that the US is interfering? How is it that we are interfering? The South Korean President stated that Trump should get a Nobel Peace prize. Is he an idiot too? Be specific. Try to debate with facts, not emotional rants.

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Trump and Moon got played pure and simple. Denuclearization was NEVER on the table. Are you of the opinion that Kim and the entire world needed Bolton to bring up Libya for them to already know about it .. AND what happened to Saddam?

“The North’s attitude is a pretty long distance away from what it appeared to be as Moon portrayed.”

This is the same game that has been played by NK for many years .. but given that Trump is an idiot who doesn't know shit about history, who but a Trump supporter would expect anything else?

before I forget to ask again..how goes your health? hopefully OK
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Trump did not just rely on Moon- Pompeo has had at least 2 meeting w/kim.
so it's obvious kim changed his mind from full denuke. agreed?

Bolton specifically mentioned the Libya model - it looks like he was freelancing
( he claims he was instrumental in the Libya removal of nukes) -so the full blame goes on Bolton,
not Pompeo/Moon or Trump.

and yes kim obviously knew the Libya model before Bolton's braying - which is why Trump now has to make these reassurances.

This is yet more blowback from the Obama/Hillary destruction of Libya!
That's where the real blame lies.

Bolton just rubbed their noses in it.

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He always believes things will be easier than they are, like healthcare, it would be amusing if it weren’t for our national security.

A good insight.

I wonder if it is an expression of the salesman con-man in him: you can get something for nothing!

Or, if by the standards of American presidents, he is literally just dim witted, uninformed, mediocre, and incapable.

My guess - a combination of all of the above!

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before I forget to ask again..how goes your health? hopefully OK
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Trump did not just rely on Moon- Pompeo has had at least 2 meeting w/kim.
so it's obvious kim changed his mind from full denuke. agreed?

Bolton specifically mentioned the Libya model - it looks like he was freelancing
( he claims he was instrumental in the Libya removal of nukes) -so the full blame goes on Bolton,
not Pompeo/Moon or Trump.

and yes kim obviously knew the Libya model before Bolton's braying - which is why Trump now has to make these reassurances.

This is yet more blowback from the Obama/Hillary destruction of Libya!
That's where the real blame lies.

Bolton just rubbed their noses in it.

Thanks for asking, but all I can say about my health is that I'm going through all the examinations, scans, biopsies, and treatments the doctors require. I start chemo next week, surgery follows chemo. I'm going to get through this. Thanks again.

Why is Trump blaming China?

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BAC, This is an excellent interview with Gordon Chang who wrote "The Coming Collapse Of China". Chang has good points regarding China, NoKo, SoKo & Japan. The video is stripped down without the commercials and worth a look.

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BAC, This is an excellent interview with Gordon Chang who wrote "The Coming Collapse Of China". Chang has good points regarding China, NoKo, SoKo & Japan. The video is stripped down without the commercials and worth a look.

Thank you .. I'll watch it when I get a few minutes. It's about 40 minutes.

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Thanks for asking, but all I can say about my health is that I'm going through all the examinations, scans, biopsies, and treatments the doctors require. I start chemo next week, surgery follows chemo. I'm going to get through this. Thanks again.

Why is Trump blaming China?

good man.. you're a tough old bird -all good wishes for your health.
what exactly do you mean "Trump is blaming China"