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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    That's ridiculous. Trump doesn't have a clue about what he's doing. He's put his own dumb ass in the position where he wants this meeting more than Kim.

    “TRUMP IS JUST A MORON”: HOW THE PRESIDENT PLAYED HIMSELF ON NORTH KOREA
    The Kim regime hasn’t changed its position—the president is just finally paying attention.

    In his rush to reach a disarmament agreement with North Korea, Donald Trump appears to have badly misjudged his adversary, Kim Jong Un. As multiple State Department sources have told me, U.S. demands that North Korea give up its nuclear weapons were always going to be a nonstarter for Kim. Nevertheless, Trump appeared to misinterpret Kim’s overtures, relayed via South Korean President Moon Jae-in, that he would unilaterally disarm, and was reportedly “surprised” and “angered” last week when North Korea’s chief nuclear negotiator released a statement to that effect. According to The New York Times, Trump now believes he may have made a mistake in agreeing to meet with Kim, and worries that the summit could become a political embarrassment. “It doesn’t look like they want to denuclearize at all,” one U.S. official told The Washington Post, after Trump made a frantic call to Moon. “The North’s attitude is a pretty long distance away from what it appeared to be as Moon portrayed.”

    Diplomats and North Korea experts, however, say this was entirely predictable. “Kim Jong Un has not offered to give up his nuclear weapons. He has not done that. He has never said anything remotely close to that,” Jeffrey Lewis, the director of the East Asia Nonproliferation Program at Middlebury College, told me recently. “What he has said is that he is willing to endorse the kind of vague principle of the elimination of nuclear weapons.” But Trump, in his excitement over the prospect of a Nobel Peace Prize, inflated his expectations for the June 12 summit. As Korea expert Victor Cha noted, Kim had “not even reaffirmed the more definitive statements about denuclearization that were used by the North Koreans in the past,” during previous negotiations with Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. “It all sounds good if you are not aware of what North Korea’s strategy is. North Korea in the end, they do want a peace treaty, and they do want normalization, but they want those things as a nuclear-weapon state. . . . They’re willing to part with some of their capability, but they’re certainly not willing to part with all of it.”
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018...un-north-korea

    With all due respect, surely you should know better.
    So should Vanity fair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnControlled Stupidity View Post
    North and South Korea were making a lot of progress and should have continued without U.S. interference. If allowed to do so, the nuclear issues might have resolved themselves.
    Militarism is good for business. The military/industrial/Knesset doesn't want peace.
    The US isn't interfering you brain dead twit. Good God; liberals have a severe case of brain damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    That's ridiculous. Trump doesn't have a clue about what he's doing. He's put his own dumb ass in the position where he wants this meeting more than Kim.

    “TRUMP IS JUST A MORON”: HOW THE PRESIDENT PLAYED HIMSELF ON NORTH KOREA
    The Kim regime hasn’t changed its position—the president is just finally paying attention.

    In his rush to reach a disarmament agreement with North Korea, Donald Trump appears to have badly misjudged his adversary, Kim Jong Un. As multiple State Department sources have told me, U.S. demands that North Korea give up its nuclear weapons were always going to be a nonstarter for Kim. Nevertheless, Trump appeared to misinterpret Kim’s overtures, relayed via South Korean President Moon Jae-in, that he would unilaterally disarm, and was reportedly “surprised” and “angered” last week when North Korea’s chief nuclear negotiator released a statement to that effect. According to The New York Times, Trump now believes he may have made a mistake in agreeing to meet with Kim, and worries that the summit could become a political embarrassment. “It doesn’t look like they want to denuclearize at all,” one U.S. official told The Washington Post, after Trump made a frantic call to Moon. “The North’s attitude is a pretty long distance away from what it appeared to be as Moon portrayed.”

    Diplomats and North Korea experts, however, say this was entirely predictable. “Kim Jong Un has not offered to give up his nuclear weapons. He has not done that. He has never said anything remotely close to that,” Jeffrey Lewis, the director of the East Asia Nonproliferation Program at Middlebury College, told me recently. “What he has said is that he is willing to endorse the kind of vague principle of the elimination of nuclear weapons.” But Trump, in his excitement over the prospect of a Nobel Peace Prize, inflated his expectations for the June 12 summit. As Korea expert Victor Cha noted, Kim had “not even reaffirmed the more definitive statements about denuclearization that were used by the North Koreans in the past,” during previous negotiations with Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. “It all sounds good if you are not aware of what North Korea’s strategy is. North Korea in the end, they do want a peace treaty, and they do want normalization, but they want those things as a nuclear-weapon state. . . . They’re willing to part with some of their capability, but they’re certainly not willing to part with all of it.”
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018...un-north-korea

    With all due respect, surely you should know better.
    no.
    The meeting was asked for by kim -not Trump. Preconditions were WELL HAMMERED OUT by Pompeo.
    Moon confirmed denuclearization.

    Bolton fucked it up with his "Libya model" ( and you know what happened to Qadafi after he gave up his nukes)
    Bolton queered it - now they are trying to put it together again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    No one could have predicted it was a bad idea for Trump to leap like an eager puppy dog to accept a date with Kim Jong, and to then roam the United States bragging about his imminent Nobel Peace prize.
    Trump is groveling? What a massive pile of bovine bile. You lying leftists with severe TDS will lie about everything these days.

    So is it your position that talking to North Korea is a bad idea? I am trying to understand your rant.

    The Nobel Peace Prize idea was the South Korean Presidents; you do know that right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    So should Vanity fair.
    They do .. and they just explained it to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    The US isn't interfering you brain dead twit. Good God; liberals have a severe case of brain damage.
    Bullshit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    It seems like mere days - even hours - ago that you wingnuts were singing accolades to Trump and cracking open champagne bottles in anticipation of the imminent Nobel peace prize.

    I guess you very belatedly agree with me that the celebrations were far too premature, and the optics of the Orange Hog leaping to accept a date with Kim Jong were amateurish and ill advised.
    You do know that it was the South Korean President who made that suggestion right?

    So in your tiny little brain you think it is all over and there will be no deal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    I didn't chime in with any champagne cork popping posts. As it sits, two good things have occurred already. We got back our prisoners and got Kim and Moon talking. We'll get there.
    Who would groan this statement??? A brain dead clueless moron it appears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    It seems like mere days - even hours - ago that you wingnuts were singing accolades to Trump and cracking open champagne bottles in anticipation of the imminent Nobel peace prize.

    I guess you very belatedly agree with me that the celebrations were far too premature, and the optics of the Orange Hog leaping to accept a date with Kim Jong were amateurish and ill advised.
    He always believes things will be easier than they are, like healthcare, it would be amusing if it weren’t for our national security.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeontheMORON View Post
    Ill conceived, badly planned and not at all well thought out,
    That was what your mom said when you were born.

    Quote Originally Posted by LeontheMORON View Post
    Trump's big meeting with Kim will likely prove to be an enormous embarrassment, if not canceled.
    You will likely be proven to be wrong, as you are about everything, but not have the intelligence God gave a gnat to be embarrassed by your stupid, uninformed and moronic predictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    I didn't chime in with any champagne cork popping posts. As it sits, two good things have occurred already. We got back our prisoners and got Kim and Moon talking. We'll get there.
    Except they aren’t now, did you miss that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SOmad View Post
    I can't believe this third rate clown managed to successfully pass himself off as this great, world class negotiator to the simpletons who voted for him, given the way he's now rolling over like a $2 whore for Kim, jumping in his lap and licking his face like an exuberant puppy.

    Trump is nothing more than a cheap carnival act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love America View Post
    I love how Trump has made leftists so unhinged they root for hamas, MS13 and Kim Jung Un

    Good stuff
    True story; it is fun to see these terrorist loving, America hating dunces come out of the closet. It really is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankly A piss-ant View Post
    Kim is playing this incompetent abomination we have installed as president...like a Stradivarius.

    I have no idea of why anyone considers Donald Trump as a skilled negotiator, but I suspect he would have trouble negotiating himself out of a wet paper bag.

    Trump is a disgrace...and you people who are so enthusiastic in your support disgusting. (Said with as much love as possible.)
    Brain dead lying leftist with TDS who loves himself some Kim Jung MentallyIll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    no.
    The meeting was asked for by kim -not Trump. Preconditions were WELL HAMMERED OUT by Pompeo.
    Moon confirmed denuclearization.

    Bolton fucked it up with his "Libya model" ( and you know what happened to Qadafi after he gave up his nukes)
    Bolton queered it - now they are trying to put it together again
    Trump and Moon got played pure and simple. Denuclearization was NEVER on the table. Are you of the opinion that Kim and the entire world needed Bolton to bring up Libya for them to already know about it .. AND what happened to Saddam?

    “The North’s attitude is a pretty long distance away from what it appeared to be as Moon portrayed.”

    This is the same game that has been played by NK for many years .. but given that Trump is an idiot who doesn't know shit about history, who but a Trump supporter would expect anything else?
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