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    Default Why no inner city school massacres?

    If a lack of gun control legislation is the issue, then why don’t these incidents occur in inner-city schools?

    When was the last time you heard of a mass shooting occurring at schools in cities like Los Angeles, Detroit, or Chicago? Sure, these cities have high rates of gun violence despite having some of the strictest gun laws in the nation, but their schools do not experience the level of deadly violence that we see elsewhere in the country. The answer is simple: inner city schools are doing something that others are not. They are implementing the types of security measures that deter and prevent would-be mass shooters.

    Schools in urban areas have used a variety of security measures to curb gun violence on their campuses. These methods were first introduced in the mid-‘80s when Detroit became one of the first cities to install metal detectors in middle schools and high schools. Schools in New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles followed suit shortly after.

    These policies have drastically decreased violent gun crime in the learning institutions in which they are implemented. Philip Smith, the president of the National African American Gun Association, believes that enhanced security should also be used in other schools. “I think urban schools are eons ahead,” he told The Denver Post. “They’ve been dealing with violence a lot longer than suburban schools.”

    In a piece written for Wear Your Voice, author Joy Mohammed described how these security methods work in Detroit schools. She wrote:

    “Every morning students arrive an hour to thirty minutes in their uniform before the first bell to wait in a line to pass through a metal detector, have their backpacks searched, and get patted down by security guards. It is just not students — every parent, guest, even the postman walks through those metal detectors, gets their photo taken, and is greeted by a security guard who escorts them to the main office, right by our deputized police officer’s desk.”

    Mohammed describes her school as a “fortress.” She states that each door is “locked from the outside and equipped with sensors.” If you leave these doors open for a certain period of time, an alarm “screeches through the hallway like a cat in heat.” She also states that every side door is locked and security guards constantly patrol the halls. Put simply; any would-be mass shooter would have an extremely difficult time carrying out a murderous rampage. Indeed, they would likely be stopped before they ever entered the building.


    https://www.libertynation.com/the-reasons-why-inner-city-schools-do-not-experience-mass-shootings/

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    inner city kids have multiple opportunities to kill outside of the school setting......

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    Inner city schools are often prison lite with the enhanced security imposed upon them for other reasons

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    Inner city schools are often prison lite with the enhanced security imposed upon them for other reasons
    What other reasons are those?

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    There are many many schools in America of many many types. Thankfully there are very few shootings. I would say trying to draw conclusions from such a small N is meaningless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by makin#2 View Post
    There are many many schools in America of many many types. Thankfully there are very few shootings. I would say trying to draw conclusions from such a small N is meaningless.
    Is that supposed to be profound? And what do you mean by "N"?

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    Number of shootings.
    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Is that supposed to be profound? And what do you mean by "N"?
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    Oh, and no, I would never get "profound" with you. This is a very basic concept.
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    Is that supposed to be profound? And what do you mean by "N"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by makin#2 View Post
    Number of shootings.
    I keep hearing claims that it's an "epidemic". Are you saying that it's not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by makin#2 View Post
    Oh, and no, I would never get "profound" with you. This is a very basic concept.
    The "N" letter is liable to be misinterpreted.

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    "New York City's schools debate removing metal detectors

    NOV 22, 2015

    " ... Some parent groups and advocates say the scanners installed at the city's most troubled institutions more than two decades ago are now unneeded because of low crime rates, and they condemn them as discriminatory, since by and large they sit in schools serving minority neighborhoods.

    "Making students have to go through metal detectors to go to school sends a terrible message to students about where they are headed and how they are viewed," said Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York City Civil Liberties Union.

    But other parents, and the union for school safety agents in the nation's largest district, which educates 1.1 million students, warn removing the machines would leave children unsafe. The union that represents the 4,915 school safety officers — who are overseen by the police department but are not armed — stress that scanners placed by the New York Police Department in high-crime schools are necessary. ... "


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    Look up epidemic. No, school shootings do not reach the widespread level I would think of to qualify as an epidemic.
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    I keep hearing claims that it's an "epidemic". Are you saying that it's not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by makin#22 View Post
    Look up epidemic. No, school shootings do not reach the widespread level I would think of to qualify as an epidemic.
    I agree. Some don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    "New York City's schools debate removing metal detectors

    NOV 22, 2015

    " ... Some parent groups and advocates say the scanners installed at the city's most troubled institutions more than two decades ago are now unneeded because of low crime rates, and they condemn them as discriminatory, since by and large they sit in schools serving minority neighborhoods.

    "Making students have to go through metal detectors to go to school sends a terrible message to students about where they are headed and how they are viewed," said Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York City Civil Liberties Union.

    But other parents, and the union for school safety agents in the nation's largest district, which educates 1.1 million students, warn removing the machines would leave children unsafe. The union that represents the 4,915 school safety officers — who are overseen by the police department but are not armed — stress that scanners placed by the New York Police Department in high-crime schools are necessary. ... "


    http://www.latimes.com/local/educati...122-story.html
    I wonder if the left really wants school shooting to stop, Bigdog.

    What say you?

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    OP sounds terribly disappointed. I have the lesion on ignore so don't know what nastiness he's spewing *this* time. Suffice it to say that he's a moron.

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