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    Quote Originally Posted by callinectes View Post
    Yep, I rode HDs for 40 years, and worked in HD dealerships for 5 years. I started noticing that in my 50's, I was about the youngest guy in the store. The customer base in the US is getting too old to ride. About four years ago, Polaris started making Indians again. Really nice bikes with an excellent proprietary engine. I've had 2 of them since and they're the best bikes I've ever owned. But I am 61 years old now, and I'm still one of the youngest customers in the dealership. I do hope Indian hangs in there for a few years though. It's gonna be rather tedious looking out the window of the retirement home at nothing but crotch rockets whizzing by.
    I've noticed a number of Can-Am's lately too.
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    There are a lot of bikes in Saigon including Harleys, Triumphs and Jap bikes. I was amazed to see so many biker dudes there.

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    Wonder if Trumps moved the manufacture of their overpriced crap from China to Thailand? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.455668c85db6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    There are a lot of bikes in Saigon including Harleys, Triumphs and Jap bikes. I was amazed to see so many biker dudes there.
    You've seen a lot of bikes in Asia, haven't you?


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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Just stop.
    Truth's painful, isn't it?

    When you think you might start calling out Trump for his numerous broken promises?
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    trump said moving businesses abroad would stop once he was elected. It was crap you rightys wanted to believe. Same dor carrier. trump went there and announced they would be hiring and staying in US. They went to Mexico as planned and got a huge pile of money from trump too. a win/win.
    That's right, he did!

    He also said his big tax cut would bring businesses who had left the country, back to America.

    Of course, his followers don't give a shit that he lied both times.
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    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    Truth's painful, isn't it?

    When you think you might start calling out Trump for his numerous broken promises?
    Your lying here is painful. And you're right, Trump lies all the time yet you have to lie here to try to make him look bad. What does that say about you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    You're lying here is painful.
    When confronted, he always changes the subject, doesn't he?
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I would expect nothing less from you than this Zap. Thanks for not disappointing.
    Pointing out the truth in the face of your bullshit lies.

    It's what I do.
    What kind of country have we become?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    The art of deflection.

    It's what I do.
    There, fixed it for ya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    Pointing out the truth in the face of your bullshit lies.

    It's what I do.
    I see. So although Harley Davidson announced this planned move in 2015 they really did so because they knew a tax cut was coming in 2017. I mean it makes total sense. Businesses always know these things years before anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    There, fixed it for ya.
    You know how you can tell when the Trumpkin is losing the debate?

    When he has to change what you wrote to make his point.

    Thanks for showing everyone just how desperate you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    You know how you can tell when the Trumpkin is losing the debate?

    When he has to change what you wrote to make his point.

    Thanks for showing everyone just how desperate you are.
    What's there to debate about HD moving one of their operations overseas?
    That is the topic, isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I see. So although Harley Davidson announced this planned move in 2015 they really did so because they knew a tax cut was coming in 2017. I mean it makes total sense. Businesses always know these things years before anyone else.
    Oh, so NOW they announced the plant closing in 2015?

    If we keep arguing about this long enough, I imagine you'll be claiming the closing announcement was made sometime near the end of the 20th century.

    Now, again, I counter with F-A-C-T-S:

    Kansas City Harley Davidson plant closure to put hundreds out of jobs

    About 800 Missourians will lose their jobs when Harley-Davidson Incorporated closes its Kansas City motorcycle assembly plant in the fall of 2019. This week’s announcement was a complete surprise to employees, who came to work and found the doors shut to them, but were told to come back to work Wednesday.

    https://www.missourinet.com/2018/02/...s-out-of-jobs/

    Check the date the article was published.
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

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