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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Hitler had special ovens reserved for ginger wogs!
    Why don't I say "Gas all people who salivate over the thought of gassing other human beings?" You're part of that set, so you'd get gassed too, but it would kill a lot of other shitty worthless people as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wokest View Post
    Why don't I say "Gas all people who salivate over the thought of gassing other human beings?" You're part of that set, so you'd get gassed too, but it would kill a lot of other shitty worthless people as well.
    You're mentally unstable, I hope you never get a gun!!

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    Italy could trigger the collapse of the EU.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...llapse-EU.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wokest View Post
    Why don't I say "Gas all people who salivate over the thought of gassing other human beings?" You're part of that set, so you'd get gassed too, but it would kill a lot of other shitty worthless people as well.
    Because you think you're funny, sadly you are only funny in the sense of being peculiar rather than comedic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    The Germans and French used the full panoply of chemical weapons in WW1, but you only single out Churchill because he used tear gas!! So if the RAF had used bombs on recalcitrant Iraqis you'd have no objection or is it only the Brits you have a problem with?



    It is sheer affectation to lacerate a man with the poisonous fragment of a bursting shell and to boggle at making his eyes water by means of lachrymatory gas. I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes. The moral effect should be so good that the loss of life should be reduced to a minimum. It is not necessary to use only the most deadly gasses: gasses can be used which cause great inconvenience and would spread a lively terror and yet would leave no serious permanent effects on most of those affected.2

    Ten days later, Churchill addressed the India Office’s reluctance to use tear gas against rebel tribesmen on the Northwest Frontier:

    Gas is a more merciful weapon than high explosive shell, and compels an enemy to accept a decision with less loss of life than any other agency of war. The moral effect is also very great. There can be no conceivable reason why it should not be resorted to. We have definitely taken the position of maintaining gas as a weapon in future warfare, and it is only ignorance on the part of the Indian military authorities which interposes any obstacle.3

    Churchill went on to cite what he saw as a greater good, which in his view made the use of “lachrymatory gas” acceptable: the welfare of soldiers. In all the accounts of his supposed enthusiasm for gas warfare, I have never seen this key minute cited in full:

    Having regard to the fact that [the India Office] are retaining all our men, even those who are most entitled to demobilisation, we cannot in any circumstances acquiesce in the non-utilisation of any weapons which are available to procure a speedy termination of the disorder which prevails on the frontier. If it is fair war for an Afghan to shoot down a British soldier behind a rock and cut him in pieces as he lies wounded on the ground, why is it not fair for a British artilleryman to fire a shell which makes the said native sneeze? It is really too silly.4

    Almost always absent from quotations alleging Churchill’s penchant for the use of gas is the above paragraph, and certainly the first part of it. It testifies that Churchill was thinking more broadly, and more humanely, than most: He was thinking of sparing serving soldiers, most of them not volunteers, from ugly deaths by the most grisly and barbarous methods.

    The issue of gas came up again after Britain had occupied Mesopotamia, part of the old Ottoman Empire, and was trying to restore order and establish a state, later Iraq— “nation building,” we would call it today. Britain was not securing her oil supply, which had already been achieved elsewhere. Churchill actually considered “Messpot,” as he called it, a huge waste of money. (See David Freeman, “Churchill and the Making of Iraq,” FH 132.)


    https://winstonchurchill.org/publica...of-lethal-gas/
    What was the threat to Britain from Iraq in 1920?

    If you quote Arthur Harris directly.. The gassings killed whole villages... Tear gas doesn't kill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    What was the threat to Britain from Iraq in 1920?

    If you quote Arthur Harris directly.. The gassings killed whole villages... Tear gas doesn't kill.
    Oh you mean this letter, where does it mention gas? Still haven't heard anything from you about the Saudis using white phosphorus against Yemen.

    On another note, the Americans firebombed Tokyo and dropped two nuclear weapons yet you seem far more concerned about Arthur Harris than Curtis LeMay why is that?

    http://aircrashsites.co.uk/aviation-...june-2nd-1924/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Oh you mean this letter, where does it mention gas? Still haven't heard anything from you about the Saudis using white phosphorus against Yemen.

    On another note, the Americans firebombed Tokyo and dropped two nuclear weapons yet you seem far more concerned about Arthur Harris than Curtis LeMay why is that?

    http://aircrashsites.co.uk/aviation-...june-2nd-1924/
    The military control of Irak was transferred to the RAF entirely in order to save money… the decision to hand control of the country to the RAF – which was of course Winston Churchill’s – was made in 1921 and took effect on 1 October, 1922…

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    In a biography of Hugh Trenchard, the father of the RAF, an operational report about a British attack on a village, sent to Churchill, is quoted:

    “The eight machines (at Nasiriyah) broke formation and attacked at different points of the encampment simultaneously… The tribesmen and their families were put to confusion, many of whom ran into the lake, making good targets for our machine-guns.”

    Churchill was annoyed at the candour of the writer and insisted that such enthusiasm at slaughtering civilians should not appear in official records again. (Andrew Boyle, Trenchard, p.389)

    In Iraq, in the 1920s, the RAF first employed itself against Turkish forces on the border near Mosul, to ensure the oil rich area remained under Imperial control. The RAF flew most of its missions against the Kurds – who have always resented rule from Baghdad.

    For ten years the RAF waged an almost continuous bombing campaign in the oil-rich, mountainous northeast region of Iraq against these people, to whom Britain had earlier promised autonomy. The Iraqi Air Force – which the British established, built up, trained and equipped – carried on this work from Baghdad after the Iraqi client state became nominally independent in 1932.

    http://www.british-values.com/index-...ip/harris.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    The military control of Irak was transferred to the RAF entirely in order to save money… the decision to hand control of the country to the RAF – which was of course Winston Churchill’s – was made in 1921 and took effect on 1 October, 1922…

    snip

    In a biography of Hugh Trenchard, the father of the RAF, an operational report about a British attack on a village, sent to Churchill, is quoted:

    “The eight machines (at Nasiriyah) broke formation and attacked at different points of the encampment simultaneously… The tribesmen and their families were put to confusion, many of whom ran into the lake, making good targets for our machine-guns.”

    Churchill was annoyed at the candour of the writer and insisted that such enthusiasm at slaughtering civilians should not appear in official records again. (Andrew Boyle, Trenchard, p.389)

    In Iraq, in the 1920s, the RAF first employed itself against Turkish forces on the border near Mosul, to ensure the oil rich area remained under Imperial control. The RAF flew most of its missions against the Kurds – who have always resented rule from Baghdad.

    For ten years the RAF waged an almost continuous bombing campaign in the oil-rich, mountainous northeast region of Iraq against these people, to whom Britain had earlier promised autonomy. The Iraqi Air Force – which the British established, built up, trained and equipped – carried on this work from Baghdad after the Iraqi client state became nominally independent in 1932.

    http://www.british-values.com/index-...ip/harris.html
    Any danger of you answering my question about the Saudis using white phosphorus in Yemen? Or indeed using cluster bombs in civilian areas. The Brits also didn't firebomb Tokyo with incendiaries, causing 100, 000 dead, or drop two nuclear bombs either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Any danger of you answering my question about the Saudis using white phosphorus in Yemen? Or indeed using cluster bombs in civilian areas. The Brits also didn't firebomb Tokyo with incendiaries, causing 100, 000 dead, or drop two nuclear bombs either.
    Are they? Is the white phosphorus supplied by the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Are they? Is the white phosphorus supplied by the US?
    What you don't know? Doesn't matter who supplied it the Saudis have used it.

    https://www.salon.com/2016/09/30/sec...used-in-yemen/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    The EU has sown the seeds of its own destruction, like all empires it has tried to expand and control all that it surveys. To quote Arthur Bomber Harris: "They sowed the wind, and now, they are going to reap the whirlwind".
    Quoting an author that quotes the Bible but not attributing the Bible?
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
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    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
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    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Quoting an author that quotes the Bible but not attributing the Bible?
    Well surely those that are religious will know that already, whilst those that are not wouldn't care less.

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    Even REMAINER George Soros warns EU is facing 'existential crisis' as Italy populism RISES

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...rexit-eurozone

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