"Trump shares quote ripping Brennan: This guy is genesis of this whole debacle"

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Trump shares quote ripping Brennan: 'This guy is the genesis of this whole debacle"

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...enesis-of-this

Noticed with Trump, Fox demogogues, radio talking heads, and conservatives, Brennan is now the latest targeted scapegoat, Comey has faded, Rosenstein doesn't work since Trump appointed him, Strzok/Page never had real traction, McCabe is gone, Steele is too remote, and Obama/Hillary are too far in the past, so it seems Brennan is the new whipping boy

Conservatives just have to have a melodrama to understand the world, to rationalize their misunderstandings, and every melodrama has to have a bad guy to be complete, tough to sell a narrative if you don't have someone to blame. They just love their existential threats

[Bourbon]

It's only Monday ...

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Trump shares quote ripping Brennan: 'This guy is the genesis of this whole debacle"

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...enesis-of-this

“'Brennan started this entire debacle about President Trump. We now know that Brennan had detailed knowledge of the (phony) Dossier...he knows about the Dossier, he denies knowledge of the Dossier, he briefs the Gang of 8 on the Hill about the Dossier, which they then used to start an investigation about Trump,” the president added.


FALSE. The Trump-Russia investigation began in late July 2016. At that time neither Brennan nor Comey knew much if anything about the dossier. The Steele dossier, phony or otherwise, had nothing to do with starting the investigation.

The question that must be answered now, as quickly and unequivocally as possible, is: what did start the investigation?

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“'Brennan started this entire debacle about President Trump. We now know that Brennan had detailed knowledge of the (phony) Dossier...he knows about the Dossier, he denies knowledge of the Dossier, he briefs the Gang of 8 on the Hill about the Dossier, which they then used to start an investigation about Trump,” the president added.


FALSE. The Trump-Russia investigation began in late July 2016. At that time neither Brennan nor Comey knew much if anything about the dossier. The Steele dossier, phony or otherwise, had nothing to do with starting the investigation.

The question that must be answered now, as quickly and unequivocally as possible, is: what did start the investigation?

Carter Page was on their radar since 2013. I’m sure others were as well and when they came together for the Trump campaign it was too coincidental?

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“'Brennan started this entire debacle about President Trump. We now know that Brennan had detailed knowledge of the (phony) Dossier...he knows about the Dossier, he denies knowledge of the Dossier, he briefs the Gang of 8 on the Hill about the Dossier, which they then used to start an investigation about Trump,” the president added.


FALSE. The Trump-Russia investigation began in late July 2016. At that time neither Brennan nor Comey knew much if anything about the dossier. The Steele dossier, phony or otherwise, had nothing to do with starting the investigation.

The question that must be answered now, as quickly and unequivocally as possible, is: what did start the investigation?

Well maybe you can explain this then

According to you the investigation started in July 2016 and it has been said that the genesis of the investigation wasn't Carter Page, but George Papadopolous speaking to this Australian diplomat. Well, we know that the FBI didn't talk to the Australian diplomat until August. So the investigation started before the FBI even talked to the guy. Isn't that unusual?

And when does the FBI launch investigations based on fourth hand information?

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Trump is such a cheeseball.. He is so stuck in 1980 and so bloody predictable that after one year in office everyone knows his next stupid move.

[Tranquillus in Exile]

Well maybe you can explain this then

According to you the investigation started in July 2016 and it has been said that the genesis of the investigation wasn't Carter Page, but George Papadopolous speaking to this Australian diplomat. Well, we know that the FBI didn't talk to the Australian diplomat until August. So the investigation started before the FBI even talked to the guy. Isn't that unusual?

It isn't according to me - the FBI investigation did in fact start July 31 2016. At that time it could not have been based on Brennan or Comey having "detailed knowledge" of the Steele dossier, as Trump has claimed, because they knew little or nothing about it.

As for Papadopoulos, my understanding is that the Australian authorities passed their information to the CIA as soon as the hacked DNC emails started to be leaked. But I haven't looked into it much, because I don't think that was the main cause of the FBI investigation. We need to know what was the cause.

Presumably you believe the story being plugged now in the RW media: Obama told the FBI to spy on Trump's campaign strategy, and they did.

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It isn't according to me - the FBI investigation did in fact start July 31 2016. At that time it could not have been based on Brennan or Comey having "detailed knowledge" of the Steele dossier, as Trump has claimed, because they knew little or nothing about it.

As for Papadopoulos, my understanding is that the Australian authorities passed their information to the CIA as soon as the hacked DNC emails started to be leaked. But I haven't looked into it much, because I don't think that was the main cause of the FBI investigation. We need to know what was the cause.

Presumably you believe the story being plugged now in the RW media: Obama told the FBI to spy on Trump's campaign strategy, and they did.

Obama told them that? And you believe that? WTF. Obama knew the justice department is an equal branch and independent. Trump is missing that basic knowledge.

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To begin with, the New York Times reported in December of last year that the FBI investigation into possible ties between the Trump campaign and Russia began when George Papadopoulos drunkenly boasted to an Australian diplomat about Russian dirt on Hillary Clinton. It was the disclosure of this episode by the Australians that “led the F.B.I. to open an investigation in July 2016 into Russia’s attempts to disrupt the election and whether any of President Trump’s associates conspired,” the NYT claimed.

But it now seems clear that Halper’s attempts to gather information for the FBI began before that. the Post reported. While it’s not rare for the FBI to gather information before formally opening an investigation, Halper’s earlier snooping does call into question the accuracy of the NYT’s claim that it was the drunken Papadopoulos ramblings that first prompted the FBI’s interest in these possible connections. And it suggests that CIA operatives, apparently working with at least some factions within the FBI, were trying to gather information about the Trump campaign earlier than had been previously reported.

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Obama told them that? And you believe that?

No, I don't believe that. But Trumpsters apparently believe it, or say they do.

Obama knew the justice department is an equal branch and independent. Trump is missing that basic knowledge.

I agree. Trump seems to think it's all about him.