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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    Tell it to Mueller.

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    This could end up being one of Trump's few mistakes. More pregnant minorities will eventually mean more Democrat voters.

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    3 percent of PP is abortion. The bulk is for other medical procedures and screening., Abortion is a legal procedure in America. 80-percent of PP users are making 18,500 a year or less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvilleherb View Post
    This could end up being one of Trump's few mistakes. More pregnant minorities will eventually mean more Democrat voters.
    That's a racist assumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerdberg View Post
    3 percent of PP is abortion. The bulk is for other medical procedures and screening., Abortion is a legal procedure in America. 80-percent of PP users are making 18,500 a year or less.
    I never understood why Planned Parenthood should get any federal dollars to begin with. If liberals love the organization, they can donate to it.

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    Taxpayers already pay for the poor's Medicaid. No need for us to fund another agency for women's health issues.

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    States establish and administer their own Medicaid programs and determine the type, amount, duration, and scope of services within broad federal guidelines. Federal law requires states to provide certain “mandatory” benefits and allows states the choice of covering other “optional” benefits. Mandatory benefits include services like inpatient and outpatient hospital services, physician services, laboratory and x-ray services, and home health services, among others. Optional benefits include services like prescription drugs, case management, physical therapy, and occupational therapy. See a list of mandatory and optional benefits for Medicaid programs.
    https://www.medicaid.gov/medicaid/benefits/index.html

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    List of Medicaid Benefits
    The list below outlines mandatory Medicaid benefits, which states are required to provide under federal law, and optional benefits that states may cover if they choose.
    Mandatory Benefits

    •Inpatient hospital services
    •Outpatient hospital services
    •EPSDT: Early and Periodic Screening, Diagnostic, and Treatment Services
    •Nursing Facility Services
    •Home health services
    •Physician services
    •Rural health clinic services
    •Federally qualified health center services
    •Laboratory and X-ray services
    •Family planning services
    •Nurse Midwife services
    •Certified Pediatric and Family Nurse Practitioner services
    •Freestanding Birth Center services (when licensed or otherwise recognized by the state)

    •Transportation to medical care
    •Tobacco cessation counseling for pregnant women

    Optional Benefits

    •Prescription Drugs
    •Clinic services
    •Physical therapy
    •Occupational therapy
    •Speech, hearing and language disorder services
    •Respiratory care services
    •Other diagnostic, screening, preventive and rehabilitative services
    •Podiatry services
    •Optometry services
    •Dental Services
    •Dentures
    •Prosthetics
    •Eyeglasses
    •Chiropractic services
    •Other practitioner services
    •Private duty nursing services
    •Personal Care
    •Hospice
    •Case management
    •Services for Individuals Age 65 or Older in an Institution for Mental Disease (IMD)
    •Services in an intermediate care facility for Individuals with Intellectual Disability
    •State Plan Home and Community Based Services- 1915(i)
    •Self-Directed Personal Assistance Services- 1915(j)
    •Community First Choice Option- 1915(k)
    •TB Related Services
    •Inpatient psychiatric services for individuals under age 21
    •Other services approved by the Secretary*
    •Health Homes for Enrollees with Chronic Conditions – Section 1945

    *This includes services furnished in a religious nonmedical health care institution, emergency hospital services by a non-Medicare certified hospital, and critical access hospital (CAH).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    That's a racist assumption.
    What percentage of black voters voted for the GOP presidential candidate in 2008 and 2012?

    What percentage of Hispanic voters voted for the GOP presidential candidate in 2016?

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    Contraception in Medicaid: Improving Maternal and Infant Health

    Medicaid and CHIP are payers of about half of all births in the U.S.

    Related Resources
    FAQs: Medicaid Family Planning Services and Supplies (PDF 76.29 KB)
    Maternal and Infant Health Care Quality
    Contraception in Medicaid: Improving Maternal and Infant Health Questions and Answers (PDF 212.46 KB)
    Medicaid Family Planning Services and Supplies (SHO 16-008) (PDF 148.43 KB)
    Family Planning and Family Planning Related Services Clarification (SMD 14-003) (PDF 110.03 KB)
    State Medicaid Director Letter (SMD 10-013) (PDF 175.39 KB)
    Collaborative Improvement & Innovation Network to Reduce Infant Mortality
    CDC's Reproductive Health Contraception Page
    U.S. Medical Eligibility Criteria for Contraceptive Use, 2010

    The Center for Medicaid and CHIP Services (CMCS) has established a Maternal and Infant Health Initiative (PDF 114.29 KB) (the Initiative) for the Medicaid and Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP). Under the Initiative, CMCS will promote the use of effective methods of contraception in order to improve pregnancy timing and spacing and in turn, the health outcomes for both women and children.

    A variety of contraceptive methods are available today such as barrier methods (condoms, diaphragms, and sponges), hormonal methods (pills, patches, rings, injectibles) and long-acting reversible contraception (LARC) (intrauterine devices (IUDs) and implants). Each method has different characteristics that influence an individual’s choice; these include: effectiveness , side effects, frequency of use, and cost. In order for an individual to be able to select and use the most appropriate method for his or her circumstances, the method of choice must be both accessible and affordable.

    Improving birth outcomes is both a public health and a budgetary priority for Medicaid and CHIP. By ensuring individuals have access to the contraceptive method of their choice, and the support necessary to use their chosen method effectively, states can support not only the health of women and their children, but also reduce the number of unintended pregnancies.

    Opportunities

    States have a variety of tools available to address the factors that influence access to, choice of, and use of contraception. There is no single solution that addresses all of the factors that may affect a consumer. States should consider a multi-faceted approach that engages state and federal staff, the provider and stakeholder communities, and consumers.

    State Plans and State Plan Amendments

    States that are interested in learning more about the flexibility available under the state plan or the family planning state plan option should contact their CMS regional office. For more information see the State Plan Amendments (SPAs) page.

    Section 1115 Demonstrations

    States that are interested in section 1115 family planning demonstrations should contact the family planning demonstration team at Family_Planning_Demos@cms.hhs.gov to learn more about this option. For more information Demonstrations & Waivers page, or learn how to apply.

    Other Federal Programs

    A number of federal agencies, in addition to CMS, work on issues related to improving the health and wellbeing of women and children, including on the issue of contraception. States may wish to consult with these programs when considering how to address the factors that affect contraception access and use. Examples of these programs include the Title X program overseen by the Office of Population Affairs and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) Winnable Battles , which include a focus on teen pregnancy . The CDC’s Division of Reproductive Health offers information on maternal and infant health and contraception, as does the Health Resources and Services Administration’s (HRSA’s) Maternal and Child Health Bureau (MCHB) .

    State Initiatives

    States have significant flexibility under the Medicaid program regarding the provision of contraception, allowing states to identify ways to improve access to contraception.

    For example, some states are looking at ways to alter bundled payments to support postpartum insertion of LARC for women who are interested in this option.

    In 2012, the South Carolina Department of Health and Human Services (SCDHHS) updated its Medicaid payment policy to unbundle payment for delivery and for the costs associated with immediate postpartum insertion of LARC. Under this policy, providers are reimbursed specifically for both the insertion procedure and the costs of an IUD or an implant in addition to the costs of the delivery. While it is too early to quantify the impact of this policy change, it is expected to increase LARC utilization and reduce rates of mistimed and unintended pregnancy (for more information, please see Have You Heard April 2013 ).

    Other states have taken different payment approaches to improve access to LARC in Medicaid. CMS issued an Informational Bulletin (PDF 233.24 KB) that describes emerging payment approaches that several state Medicaid agencies have used to optimize access and use of LARC. States interested in exploring the flexibilities that exist under current rules and regulations should contact their regional office.
    https://www.medicaid.gov/medicaid/qu...ion/index.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvilleherb View Post
    What percentage of black voters voted for the GOP presidential candidate in 2008 and 2012? What percentage of Hispanic voters voted for the GOP presidential candidate in 2016?
    Times and people's preferences change.

    Suggesting that people will always vote a certain way because of their ethnicity is short-sighted.

    The GOP once enjoyed a sizable majority of Black voters. It's up to the party to earn their votes back, and comments like yours won't help, IMO.

    There are many reasons not to fund Planned Parenthood without linking defunding it to gaining future political advantages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion View Post
    If someone had said something to that effect, you'd have a point.

    Since nobody did, you don't.
    I have yet to read any one of you on here ever include Republican women in your anti abortion rants so STFU with your bullshit.

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    Melania won't let him

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    The Trump administration acted Friday to bar taxpayer-funded family planning clinics from referring women for abortions, energizing its conservative political base ahead of the midterm elections while setting the stage for new legal battles.

    The Health and Human Services Department sent its proposal to rewrite the rules to the White House, setting in motion a regulatory process that could take months. An administration overview of the plan said it would echo a Reagan-era rule by banning abortion referrals by federally funded clinics and forbidding them from locating in facilities that also provide abortions.

    Planned Parenthood, a principal provider of abortion services, said the plan appears designed to target the organization. “The end result would make it impossible for women to come to Planned Parenthood, who are counting on us every day,” said executive vice president Dawn Laguens.

    But presidential counselor Kellyanne Conway said that the administration is recognizing “that abortion is not family planning.”

    The policy was derided as a “gag rule” by abortion rights supporters, a point challenged by the administration, which said counseling about abortion would be OK, but not referrals. It’s likely to trigger lawsuits from opponents, and certain to galvanize activists on both sides of the abortion debate going into November’s congressional elections.

    The policy “would ensure that taxpayers do not even indirectly fund abortions,” White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said in a statement.

    Social and religious conservatives have remained steadfastly loyal to President Donald Trump.

    Tuesday night, Trump is scheduled to speak at the Susan B. Anthony List’s “campaign for life” gala. The group works to elect candidates who want to reduce and ultimately end abortion.

    It spent more than $18 million in the 2016 election cycle to defeat Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    The original Reagan-era family planning rule barred clinics from discussing abortion with women. It never went into effect as written, although the Supreme Court ruled it was an appropriate use of executive power. The policy was rescinded under President Bill Clinton, and a new rule took effect requiring “nondirective” counseling to include a full range of options for women.

    The Trump administration said its proposal will roll back the Clinton requirement that abortion be discussed as an option along with prenatal care and adoption.

    Known as Title X, the program was costing taxpayers about $260 million a year through clinics.

    The U.S. abortion rate has dropped significantly, from about 29 per 1,000 women of reproductive age in 1980 to about 15 in 2014.

    https://www.apnews.com/a777f010d69347468e8b2945ab339348

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha68 View Post
    I have yet to read any one of you on here ever include Republican women in your anti abortion rants so STFU with your bullshit.
    I accept your admission of error.

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    Stretch in the weeds again. 3/4rs of PP work is providing Medicaid people health care. Planned Parenthood is where the poor get their health care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerdberg View Post
    Stretch in the weeds again. 3/4rs of PP work is providing Medicaid people health care. Planned Parenthood is where the poor get their health care.
    Sure, it is.

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