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    Default On North Korea, Trump is getting played by both sides

    "Since the moment he agreed on a whim to a summit between himself and Kim Jong Un, President Trump has been almost giddy about the breakthrough hes about to achieve, even musing about his upcoming Nobel Peace Prize."

    He even had his poorly educated rubes yelling: nobel peace prize!





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    Typical rightys. We want to have a conference about your nuclear weapons. First you have to give up your entire nuclear program. Then we can talk. About what? It was supposed to be a nuclear talk, but maybe now about the weather

    Why would NK do that before a talk? They built a nuclear program to get a seat on the world stage. Now Trump noticed them so they will just destroy it? Trump and Bolton want a war.

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    The lines of demarcation may never have been more clear.

    R -Rich old money asshole fearful takers and their ignorant white trash rural peasant class who don't understand the exploitation and dead end existence

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    D=The technologically savvy and highly educated enlightened workers who see shared sacrifice and education creating a best case world that maximizes happiness for the group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    "Since the moment he agreed on a whim to a summit between himself and Kim Jong Un, President Trump has been almost giddy about the breakthrough he’s about to achieve, even musing about his upcoming Nobel Peace Prize."

    He even had his poorly educated rubes yelling: nobel peace prize!


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    A really bad look for a President of the United States to act like an eager puppy dog, literally leaping at the chance to accept an invitation from a tin pot dictator...and then travelling the United States boasting to people about his imminent Nobel prize.

    Trump has more face to lose now if these negotiations do not go forward, and he has put himself in the position of potentially having to accept anything - anything - that is face-saving and looks good on paper. And he has no one to blame but his boastful self.

    Art of the deal, my ass. This is strictly amateur hour. Trump is about to learn that selling frozen steaks is in no way an adequate preparation for geopolitical chess with hardened communist dictators.

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    NK is on the ropes, and China is tipping them over thanks to Trump's maximum pressure.
    It's also coordinated thru the UN- imagine Trump of all people using international ( globalist) pressures
    to solve an existential threat?

    Trump is nimble, Trump thinks outside the box, and Trump has already gotten 3 prisoners back
    without sending plane loads of cash to ̶I̶r̶a̶n̶ North Korea!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    A really bad look for a President of the United States to act like an eager puppy dog, literally leaping at the chance to accept an invitation from a tin pot dictator...and then travelling the United States boasting to people about his imminent Nobel prize.

    Trump has more face to lose now if these negotiations do not go forward, and he has put himself in the position of potentially having to accept anything - anything - that is face-saving and looks good on paper. And he has no one to blame but his boastful self.

    Art of the deal, my ass. This is strictly amateur hour. Trump is about to learn that selling frozen steaks is in no way an adequate preparation for geopolitical chess with hardened communist dictators.
    I agree. The only advantage to the orange stupid has is the adjustment of those dictators to the new realty that out potus is in fact a moron.

    Why does Trump think that the fact that his REAL BILLIONAIRE lenders decided his continued existence would give them greater return on their bad investments to his failed BK companies
    than totally taking him down, makes him some shrewd guru?

    Just think how much better the world would be if those bankers had decided to destroy him rather than do a workout....
    Unintended consequences law in stark relief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Typical rightys. We want to have a conference about your nuclear weapons. First you have to give up your entire nuclear program. Then we can talk. About what? It was supposed to be a nuclear talk, but maybe now about the weather

    Why would NK do that before a talk? They built a nuclear program to get a seat on the world stage. Now Trump noticed them so they will just destroy it? Trump and Bolton want a war.
    In some cases war is justified.

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    Trump could cure cancer and liberals would complain he is putting doctors out of a job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaya View Post
    Trump could cure cancer and liberals would complain he is putting doctors out of a job.
    Trump couldn't cure his own stanky-ass B.O. much less cancer or anything else more complicated than blowing his nose on his sleeve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    NK is on the ropes, and China is tipping them over thanks to Trump's maximum pressure.
    It's also coordinated thru the UN- imagine Trump of all people using international ( globalist) pressures
    to solve an existential threat?

    Trump is nimble, Trump thinks outside the box, and Trump has already gotten 3 prisoners back
    without sending plane loads of cash to ̶I̶r̶a̶n̶ North Korea!
    Good Christ.

    I do not know if you have a career where your credibility is important.

    But I guarantee you that North Korean leadership is taking stock of Trump's credibility.

    You know what they are seeing? An outsized Orange Pig who rips up and violates America's nuclear agreement with Iran. An agreement that was working.

    An Arrogant Pig who makes Iraq War architect John Bolton his national security advisor. North Korea is fully aware that Bolton wants war, not negotiation. There was nothing, nothing Iraq could have done, nothing they could have negotiated, to stop the war Bolton wanted.

    Architects, Supporters, and Fans of the Iraq War:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    A really bad look for a President of the United States to act like an eager puppy dog, literally leaping at the chance to accept an invitation from a tin pot dictator...and then travelling the United States boasting to people about his imminent Nobel prize.
    Then why hasn't he canceled the joint military exercises between the US and South Korea?

    Trump has more face to lose now if these negotiations do not go forward, and he has put himself in the position of potentially having to accept anything - anything - that is face-saving and looks good on paper. And he has no one to blame but his boastful self.
    He has said repeatedly that he will walk away from a bad deal.

    Art of the deal, my ass. This is strictly amateur hour. Trump is about to learn that selling frozen steaks is in no way an adequate preparation for geopolitical chess with hardened communist dictators.
    Please share with us what Bill Clinton, GW Bush and Obama accomplished with North Korea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    An Arrogant Pig who makes Iraq War architect John Bolton his national security advisor. North Korea is fully aware that Bolton wants war, not negotiation. There was nothing, nothing Iraq could have done, nothing they could have negotiated, to stop the war Bolton wanted.
    What a pathetic dishonest liar you are. All Saddam had to do to avoid a war was live up to the agreements he made when he surrendered during the first Gulf war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Good Christ.

    I do not know if you have a career where your credibility is important.

    But I guarantee you that North Korean leadership is taking stock of Trump's credibility.

    You know what they are seeing? An outsized Orange Pig who rips up and violates America's nuclear agreement with Iran. An agreement that was working.

    An Arrogant Pig who makes Iraq War architect John Bolton his national security advisor. North Korea is fully aware that Bolton wants war, not negotiation. There was nothing, nothing Iraq could have done, nothing they could have negotiated, to stop the war Bolton wanted.
    your same old rant. North Korea rightfully objects to Bolton,and Trump addresses the "Libya model" today.
    He made it clear we are offering carrots and sticks,and he promised he won't pull an Obama on Libya weasel move.

    Trumphas exceeded all expectations,
    when just a few months ago guys like you weer sure he was leading us to war.

    War could still be the final out come. Kim cannot be allowed to have ICBM that reach US shores.
    But Trump's maximum pressure has yielded a peaceful path that will eventually benefit all of Korea,
    and the Pacific/US as well.

    you can keep snorting on about the Orange Hog, and continue to become more an more marginalized-
    calling out fouls from the sidelines while the world moves forward .
    Other are working towards de-nuclearization; however that final construct shakes out.

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    oh. and as to credability? NK has made it clear they are concerned about the Libya model-
    not an ad hoc executive agreement that doesn't have Treaty power (Iran)

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