"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
Last edited by PoliTalker; 05-15-2018 at 11:13 AM.
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mak2 (05-15-2018)
Hello aloysious,
There's ample objectivity. It simply doesn't get much attention. Capitalism has little use for objectivity. Balanced objectivity has little of the needed shock factor. If a presentation doesn't instill anger it doesn't sell advertising. Better to use some highly polarized material. That's what get's viewership and sells.
That's fake news. Obama was not extreme. He was actually very close to centrist. The RWPM Right Wind Propaganda Machine labelled him as extremist, but that was not true. Obama had no, and never voiced any, 'vision to reward personal irresponsibility.' That's pure made-up propaganda. You're welcome to believe it if you like, but you should know that only people on the right believe that, and there is absolutely no supporting evidence. Obama never said that, nor did he advocate for it. Fake news.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
ThatOwlWoman (05-15-2018)
Key in "Obama’s Promise diversion program" and "Nikolas Cruz" and get back to me on that. Of course not. That would be stupid to say something like that. But actions speak louder than words. That's been the main theme of democrats' philosophy for as long as I've been alive. Although I have no use for republicans I have particular disdain for democrats because of that philosophy. That's why I'm so hard on them on this board.
I don't believe my race relations are better than yours because I work on it harder. I'm in the business of personal relationships and just have better overall personal relationships than you regardless of race.
Maybe your race relationships would be better if you simply worked on your personal relationships in general and forget about race.
Last edited by Cancel 2018.1; 05-15-2018 at 02:55 PM.
Hello aloysious,
If you would like to present something to support your claim please do so. A link. A quote. I am not doing your homework, nor am I following a search which will invariably take me to what I can only guess will be propaganda. Basically, if it is not a direct Obama quote, then it is probably something the right wing SAID about Obama. President Obama cannot be held responsible for what those who hate him claim he did or didn't do.
And again, you have not given anything to support what you say. Innuendo doesn't cut it. At this point in our conversation all I have seen has been unsupported far right wing extremist positions. It sounds like your view is based more on emotion than verifiable facts.
And another thing. The quotes of mine you included are not from the same post the quote-links take you to. Why are you trying to make it difficult to track our actual conversation?
Last edited by PoliTalker; 05-22-2018 at 05:46 AM.
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Americans Prefer Obama over trump by a Wide Margin
Who doesn't, except a few brainwashed peasants in Hicksville?
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