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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    They have found thousands of clay tablets in Dilmun that are a thousand years older and tell the story of Gilgamesh..

    Then there are the much older tablets at Ras Shamra.. The Hebrews borrowed Psalms from them.


    They probably shared the Canaanite creation story.. since they originally were landless Canaanites.

    Canaanite Creation Story (also known as Phoenician/Syrian Creation ...



    http://www.academia.edu/.../Canaanit...enician_Syrian...



    Canaanite Creation Story (also known as Phoenician/Syrian Creation story) The entire world was once only Arapel (cloudy darkness) and Baad (wind). Baad then went onto produce Ruach, another type of wind, which instead of mingling with the darkness, blew it away to bring forth light. However, no field was yet formed, ...
    I got "page not found" error from your link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnkaRitche View Post
    I think I'll read it again......

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnkaRitche View Post
    Excellent novel!
    And so is the Heinlein one you mentioned earlier.

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    The Unseen Realm: Recovering the Supernatural Worldview of the ...



    https://www.amazon.com/Unseen-Realm-...ldview/.../157...






    The thesis of "The Unseen World" is that the divine council forms one of, if not the major thread uniting biblical theology. God's council in the Old Testament is a host of created divine beings (like angels) surrounding God. Some of these beings went bad, and they sinned with human women in Genesis 6:1-4

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    I got "page not found" error from your link.
    Sorry about that.

    This will work.

    http://www.academia.edu/24246800/Can...Creation_story

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    This is the worst charlatan in organized fake religion today. He's a scary guy. One day he will become the next james baker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    They have found thousands of clay tablets in Dilmun that are a thousand years older and tell the story of Gilgamesh..

    Then there are the much older tablets at Ras Shamra.. The Hebrews borrowed Psalms from them.
    /yawn.....sorry.....not true.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Canaanite Creation Story (also known as Phoenician/Syrian Creation story) The entire world was once only Arapel (cloudy darkness) and Baad (wind). Baad then went onto produce Ruach, another type of wind, which instead of mingling with the darkness, blew it away to bring forth light. However, no field was yet formed, ...
    well I can see already why you think its identical to Genesis 1.....lol.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Yamm, upon hearing this is enraged. All fled before his fury but Ba-al, who with the help of his sister Anat 'goddess of war( defeated Yamm and his allies
    Tannin (dragon of the sea) and Loran (the sea serpent with seven heads). The gods then built a magnificent house for Ba-al, so that he could rest and provide abundant rain for the earth.
    dude.....you think the Hebrews copied that in Genesis 1?......should we take this as your admission you've never read Genesis 1?......

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    The psalmist declared that God presides over an assembly of divine beings (Psa. 82:1). Who are they? What does it mean when those beings participate in God’s decisions (1 Kings 22:19–23)?

    Why wasn’t Eve surprised when the serpent spoke to her?

    Why are Yahweh and his Angel fused together in Jacob’s prayer (Gen. 48:15–16)?

    How did descendants of the Nephilim (Gen. 6:4) survive the flood (Num. 13:33)? What are we to make of Peter and Jude’s belief in imprisoned spirits (2 Pet. 2:4; Jude 6)?

    Why does Paul describe evil spirits in terms of geographical rulership (thrones, principalities, rulers, authorities)? Who are the “glorious ones” that even angels dare not rebuke (2 Pet. 2:10–11)?


    The Unseen Realm: Recovering the Supernatural Worldview of the Bible

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Oh you're not butting in.. Welcome.

    I too think they borrowed the myth from Sumer after the Babylonian exile. .. and I think the Gilgamesh myth is borrowed as well.. based on infrequent floods in the Euphrates River Basin... Noah was a petty king called Ziusudra.
    Good intel.

    Thank you for providing some much needed intellectual firepower and scholarly knowledge to this board. You would be actually surprised how much of this board is dedicated to racism, sexism, libel, and unadulterated Trump worship.

    I watched some lectures recently on the Sumerians, and it gave me some much needed insight on how under-rated this civilization was on the road to human development. I appreciated your two cents, as well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Good intel.

    Thank you for providing some much needed intellectual firepower and scholarly knowledge to this board. You would be actually surprised how much of this board is dedicated to racism, sexism, libel, and unadulterated Trump worship.

    I watched some lectures recently on the Sumerians, and it gave me some much needed insight on how under-rated this civilization was on the road to human development. I appreciated your two cents, as well!
    If you think how young archeology is, we have only just begun to discover our past. It is fascinating to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    If you think how young archeology is, we have only just begun to discover our past. It is fascinating to me.
    You are right. It is incredible...and adventure of discovery really....

    The destruction that is occurring in Iraq and Syria is especially tragic, given it place as the birthplace of civilization.

    I have always thought that the worst day as an archeologist is better than the best day as an accountant....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    He has written quite a few interesting sounding books, thanks. Have you read Karen Armstrong? Or Elaine Pagels?
    No. Thanks for the tip. I'll check em out. lutz (definition 3 UD).
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