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    If it comes out Trump paid for an abortion and there is undeniable proof, the evangelicals will become pro abortion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    You are talking about people who cheered for the immoral Iraq War bloodbath, who defended water boarding, and who provided cover for the sado-sexual torture of Iraqi prisoners.

    Do you think aborting a fetus really would weigh on their moral conscience?
    Mike Pompeo supports torture and hates Muslims, this pos is now the Sec'y of State.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Rumppers,If it were to come out that Rump used Michael Cohen to pay a woman 1.6 million to be quiet about aborting their fetus...

    Would you still support him?
    Yes. He did nothing illegal. You want abortion legal. You got what you want

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    I guess GayRod is out of collusion gas

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Mike Pompeo supports torture and hates Muslims, this pos is now the Sec'y of State.
    It is disgusting.

    I actually never got the impressions that torture bothers conservatives at all - with a few exceptions like McCain.

    I believe Trump is on record fantasizing about torture. It seems to even titillate him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love America View Post
    I guess GayRod is out of collusion gas
    so is Bob Mueller

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    It is disgusting.

    I actually never got the impressions that torture bothers conservatives at all - with a few exceptions like McCain.

    I believe Trump is on record fantasizing about torture. It seems to even titillate him.
    Way back in our Netscape days cons definitely supported torture and I don't believe they changed their minds since then.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Way back in our Netscape days cons definitely supported torture and I don't believe they changed their minds since then.
    For the most part, I have never heard nor seen the slightest remorse or regret from any conservative poster about the entire Iraq War, including the use of torture.
    I actually haven't seen them admit to even learning any lessons at all. There has been no introspection, none, by wingnuts about their beloved Iraq War or torture.

    So, in that moral universe, I cannot see how Trump paying to abort a fetus would have the slightest effect on their worship of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    For the most part, I have never heard nor seen the slightest remorse or regret from any conservative poster about the entire Iraq War, including the use of torture.
    I actually haven't seen them admit to even learning any lessons at all. There has been no introspection, none, by wingnuts about their beloved Iraq War or torture.

    So, I cannot see how Trump paying to abort a fetus would have the slightest effect on their worship of him.
    Yep, I agree.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Mike Pompeo supports torture and hates Muslims, this pos is now the Sec'y of State.
    Leon Panetta....remember him
    Obama’s CIA Director,

    Then Obama’s Defense Secretary


    Didn’t he admit that torture played a role in gathering intelligence in the hunt for Osama bin Laden ?
    Of course he later speculated they’d have gotten Osama even without it….


    Pompeo said,

    “Our men and women who were tasked to keep us safe in the aftermath of 9/11 — our military and our intelligence warriors — are heroes, not pawns in some liberal game being played by the ACLU and Senator Feinstein,” Pompeo said in a statement on Dec. 9, 2014. “These men and women are not torturers, they are patriots. The programs being used were within the law, within the constitution, and conducted with the full knowledge Senator Feinstein. If any individual did operate outside of the program’s legal framework, I would expect them to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.


    No matter anyway, 'enhanced interrogation' is illegal

    Leon Panetta also said in an interview that Americans should prepare themselves for the country to be at war with the Islamic State and other terrorist groups for decades to come.

    'I think we're looking at kind of a 30-year war,' he said.

    Threats posed by emerging terrorist networks in Nigeria, Somalia, Yemen, Libya and other countries will keep the U.S. military engaged for the foreseeable future, he forewarned. The fight will not end when the U.S. defeats ISIS in Iraq and Syria


    Is he a Muslim hater or he just being realistic.....

    Put blame where it belongs
    ATF decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.
    It that time," the NRA wrote in a statement. "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
    The ATF and Obama admin. ignored the NRA recommendations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    For the most part, I have never heard nor seen the slightest remorse or regret from any conservative poster about the entire Iraq War, including the use of torture.
    I actually haven't seen them admit to even learning any lessons at all. There has been no introspection, none, by wingnuts about their beloved Iraq War or torture.

    So, in that moral universe, I cannot see how Trump paying to abort a fetus would have the slightest effect on their worship of him.
    Would it been better for you if he used Planned Parenthood ?

    Every time I think of Otto Warmbier, imprisoned in North Korea for 17 months, returned home blind, deaf and "jerking violently, making these inhuman sounds"
    according to his parents…..torture isn’t enough payback for people that do things like that or the beheading of prisoners like the Muslim fanatics....
    We don't even treat animals for slaughter like that.....I won't lose any sleep over fighting 'fire with fire'....you reap what you sow.
    Put blame where it belongs
    ATF decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.
    It that time," the NRA wrote in a statement. "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
    The ATF and Obama admin. ignored the NRA recommendations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Rumppers,If it were to come out that Rump used Michael Cohen to pay a woman 1.6 million to be quiet about aborting their fetus...

    Would you still support him?
    seems like a mutually beneficial deal for two consenting adults. whats the issue?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    For the most part, I have never heard nor seen the slightest remorse or regret from any conservative poster about the entire Iraq War, including the use of torture.
    I actually haven't seen them admit to even learning any lessons at all. There has been no introspection, none, by wingnuts about their beloved Iraq War or torture.

    So, in that moral universe, I cannot see how Trump paying to abort a fetus would have the slightest effect on their worship of him.
    I supported the iraq war when I was 18 years old. They literally started bombing perhaps a week after my 18th birthday. I was very new to politics and paying attention to current events. My logic was very simple: "there is NO WAY our government would actually lie to us, and tell a lie so big, and do it on the world stage. just no way"

    To my very best credit, I turned against the iraq war very quickly. All the way back in mid-late 2003 on politics.com you can still find cached posts of mine talking about how we should get out of iraq.

    So yes I have learned a very important lesson. I now know the government lies routinely. They will lie us (and have lied us) into syria as well, though I see far fewer liberals caring about that whole cluster fuck. The CIA, NSA, FBI deepstate spooks are never to be trusted. If it were up to them they would commit false flag murder on americans like they tried to do with operation northwoods back in the 60's. Or they'll find homeless people and prostitutes and drug them on LSD for mind reading purposes like the now declassified program MK ULTRA.

    In fact I think there are quite a few conservatives on this site that regret the iraq war. You sort of have a habit of ignoring all that though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by * View Post
    I supported the iraq war when I was 18 years old. They literally started bombing perhaps a week after my 18th birthday. I was very new to politics and paying attention to current events. My logic was very simple: "there is NO WAY our government would actually lie to us, and tell a lie so big, and do it on the world stage. just no way"

    To my very best credit, I turned against the iraq war very quickly. All the way back in mid-late 2003 on politics.com you can still find cached posts of mine talking about how we should get out of iraq.

    So yes I have learned a very important lesson. I now know the government lies routinely. They will lie us (and have lied us) into syria as well, though I see far fewer liberals caring about that whole cluster fuck. The CIA, NSA, FBI deepstate spooks are never to be trusted. If it were up to them they would commit false flag murder on americans like they tried to do with operation northwoods back in the 60's. Or they'll find homeless people and prostitutes and drug them on LSD for mind reading purposes like the now declassified program MK ULTRA.

    In fact I think there are quite a few conservatives on this site that regret the iraq war. You sort of have a habit of ignoring all that though.
    I thought I told you this before, but let me make this perfectly clear to you, Chump.

    I generally never read your boring ass responses to me, or any of your posts.

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    "Would it been better for you if he used Planned Parenthood ?"

    Witty.

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