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    I would like to see where russia and china are on that list
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    Quote Originally Posted by * View Post
    you are fucking retarded. If anything the media has become more emboldened. What media has been chilled into silence? FAKE. NEWS.
    Unnecessary invective. You always say how chill you are, but the tone your posts contradicts that.

    Trump doesn't like a free press; he's made that pretty clear. It absolutely has a chilling effect, but - as with even the most oppressive countries - there are journalists who are still willing to speak the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Unnecessary invective. You always say how chill you are, but the tone your posts contradicts that.

    Trump doesn't like a free press; he's made that pretty clear. It absolutely has a chilling effect, but - as with even the most oppressive countries - there are journalists who are still willing to speak the truth.
    present any evidence at all that the press has been chilled and silenced. you are full of shit. every major media publication has leaned in hard on trump and without abandon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by * View Post
    present any evidence at all that the press has been chilled and silenced. you are full of shit. every major media publication has leaned in hard on trump and without abandon.
    Present evidence that threats of lawsuits and general intimidation from someone at the highest position of power has any effect?

    Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Present evidence that threats of lawsuits and general intimidation from someone at the highest position of power has any effect?

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    yes seriously. There is no evidence to suggest the press has been chilled into silence in the slightest. They are emboldened, and heavily protected. No stormtroopers are coming into their offices. No sanctions have been given. They write want they want to, as they always have. You have zero evidence that it goes in the other direction. There is plenty of evidence to suggest nothing has changed. You believe in fake news.


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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    No, he just employed the power he has being President to attack and demean what many going back to the Founding Fathers consider the fourth branch of Government

    And before you respond with the predictable the the MSM is biased, the media includes the right wing outlets as Fox and talk radio, and "being balanced" doesn't mean just because it is "balanced" it is valid

    Trump is doing irreparable damage to both the Fourth Estate and the Judicial system by design, both major institutions in the American democracy, and what makes it even more horrendous is that he is doing it for his own personal benefit
    The founding fathers never said that.

    It is so hilarious how the Dems had no problem when Obama waged war on fox and now the same whiny hypocrites can't stand the fact Trump won't put up with their yellow rag journalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by * View Post
    present any evidence at all that the press has been chilled and silenced. you are full of shit. every major media publication has leaned in hard on trump and without abandon.
    Maybe you can help out, who was the last US President to declare that the "press was the enemy of the American people?"

    Yeah, he's all about freedom of the press

    And I you got to love the "leaned in hard on trump," incase you didn't notice, the media martyr role reached its point of diminishing returns after WaterGate, and that was nearly a half a century ago, besides the Don loves the media, his whole existence is based upon media coverage, if they did nothing and ignored him he'd more pissed

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    the media is operating as they always have.

    Trump is allowed to criticize fake news media.

    No one has been chilled into silence, the media has been embolden and frequently criticizes trump without penalty.

    All the evidence suggests it's business as usual. Thing1 and others have no evidence to the contrary.


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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Maybe you can help out, who was the last US President to declare that the "press was the enemy of the American people?"

    Yeah, he's all about freedom of the press

    And I you got to love the "leaned in hard on trump," incase you didn't notice, the media martyr role reached its point of diminishing returns after WaterGate, and that was nearly a half a century ago, besides the Don loves the media, his whole existence is based upon media coverage, if they did nothing and ignored him he'd more pissed
    Trump has spent a great deal of time trying to dismantle and discredit some of our most vital institutions, including the 4th estate and FBI.

    It's pretty classic 3rd-world, dictator strategy. Textbook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaya View Post
    The founding fathers never said that.

    It is so hilarious how the Dems had no problem when Obama waged war on fox and now the same whiny hypocrites can't stand the fact Trump won't put up with their yellow rag journalism.
    Love educating the Trumpkins

    "were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter," - Thomas Jefferson

    “Freedom of speech is a principal pillar of a free government: When this support is taken away, the constitution of a free society is dissolved" - Benjamin Franklin

    "“But none of the means of information are more sacred, or have been cherished with more tenderness and care by the settlers of America, than the press." - John Adams

    "if the freedom of speech may be taken away, and dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep, to the slaughter.” - George Washington

    Obama "waged war on Fox," beautiful, did Obama ever proclaim "that the press is the enemy of the American people?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by * View Post
    the media is operating as they always have.

    Trump is allowed to criticize fake news media.

    No one has been chilled into silence, the media has been embolden and frequently criticizes trump without penalty.

    All the evidence suggests it's business as usual. Thing1 and others have no evidence to the contrary.
    He ain't "critizing" the press, he declared it was the "enemy of the American people," are you that drunk on the Kool Aid?

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    no evidence of a chilling effect. none.
    no evidence the press have changed there ways of covering news
    no evidence the press isn't more emboldened and committed to covering trump negatively.
    not one iota, shred, morsel of evidence.

    FAKE. NEWS.


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    lol....if the press wasn't free we wouldn't HAVE fake news......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Present evidence that threats of lawsuits and general intimidation from someone at the highest position of power has any effect?

    Seriously?
    you have a point....no one on CNN has said a negative thing about Trump for nearly six minutes......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Trump has spent a great deal of time trying to dismantle and discredit some of our most vital institutions, including the 4th estate and FBI.

    It's pretty classic 3rd-world, dictator strategy. Textbook.


    The insanity of liberals

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