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Study Shows Trump Voters Were Motivated by Fear of Losing Privileged Status—Not Economic Anxiety
This wasn't about the stagnant wages.
Much has been made about Trump’s support from the “ [3]” who elected him to throw a “flash-bang grenade” at the elites in Washington. Usually, this framed as an issue concerning “economic anxiety,” and the fact that middle-class white Americans are less prosperous than they were in past generations.
But a new study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences suggests that this narrative is flawed. Trump supporters aren’t angry about offshoring, they’re resentful about their possible loss of status.
“It’s much more of a symbolic threat that people feel,” study author Diana C. Mutz from the University of Pennsylvania, told the New York Times [4]. “It’s not a threat to their own economic well-being; it’s a threat to their group’s dominance in our country over all.”
Mutz’s research casts doubts on the economic anxiety explanation, which researchers call the “left behind” theory. People who lost jobs or came from cities where offshoring ravaged the local economy weren’t more likely to support trump than people who didn’t.
“It wasn’t people in those areas that were switching, those folks were already voting Republican,” Mutz said.
The actual correlation she uncovered involved a “social dominance orientation,” which measures whether people see hierarchy as a good and natural way to organize society. White people who had that view gravitated towards Trump.
“It used to be a pretty good deal to be a white, Christian male in America, but things have changed and I think they do feel threatened,” Mutz said.
Read the study here [5] or the Times story here [4].
By Martin Cizmar
Cypress (04-25-2018), evince (04-25-2018), Phantasmal (04-26-2018), PoliTalker (04-25-2018), rjhenn (04-26-2018), ThatOwlWoman (04-25-2018)
Oh Kenny, stop with the white guilt already, it is incredibly passé
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Truth Detector (04-26-2018)
desh did a thread on this while you were gone..It's the same rehashed Deplorable crap
Rune (04-25-2018)
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This is an amusing thread.
Truth Detector (04-26-2018)
she sounds very intelligent and independent minded
I does make me think -why would an entire race of people think 90% the same politics?
Blacks are diverse, and intelligent people -yet they seem to be in a sleepwalking political trance.
Of course just to question this unusual mono-thought , brings cries of "racism"
Truth Detector (04-26-2018)
The Left has always used racism as a way to control the debate and prevent intelligent discussion. New Labour did that over here in the early 2000s to shut down debate and allow vast swathes of people to come here. It is one of defining reasons why so many people voted for Brexit.
This was posted on Facebook recently and it sums up the situation exceedingly well.
Ordinary people know and understand something that pro-immigration economists and politicians are ignorant of or simply ignore: uncontrolled immigration does not improve per capita income, or in plain man’s language, immigration does not make ordinary people financially or culturally better off.
In fact it makes them worse off. With cheap immigrant labour, profits are privatised while costs are socialised. Cheap immigrant labour might boost the profits of low wage employers, but in a welfare state the tax payer foots the immigrant bill while watching his local community become a foreign country.
The truth is that, in the modern world, an immigrant economy is an economy that has failed to invest in its own people. Instead of investment in skills and long-term real-economy jobs, a policy of cheap immigrant labour is pursued while large sections of the native workforce are fobbed-off with welfarism and deferred-adulthood “educational” courses that do nothing educational, but make politicians look good by keeping “students” off the unemployment
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anatta (04-25-2018), Truth Detector (04-26-2018)
from the fake news study itself:
It is notable that many attitudes and attributes identified as possible explanations for Trump’s support among white working-class voters were not significant independent predictors. Gender, age, region, and religious affiliation were not significant demographic factors in the model. Views about gender roles and attitudes about race were also not significant. It is also notable that neither measure of civic engagement—attendance at civic events or religious services—proved to be a significant independent predictor of support for Trump.
https://www.prri.org/research/white-...-donald-trump/
Trump's entire campaign played to fear. He's a pretty classic demagogue.
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Hello signalmankenneth,
I believe this is true.
White American males have been displaced from prominence. Once, the white American male was king of his own castle as the sole breadwinner head of household. As capitalism forced both parents to work, many males were displaced from their traditional roles. They didn't like that, so they longed for their dominance to return, longed for a time when life in America was great for them. Trump represented a return to what they wanted.
Too bad they are not getting what they voted for.
Slick-talking Trump used them.
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rjhenn (04-26-2018)
All I have heard from liberals leading up to the election and after was how terrifying a trump presidency would be, how we would fall into tyranny, how he'd be a dictator, how immigrants and gays would be shipped off to camps, all sorts of nonsense. liberals operated on fear every bit as you claim conservatives did.
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