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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Short, sweet and to the point.
    And irrelevant. It’s not even a good analogy as Sanders isn’t calling for a command economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Trump is President primarily today because Clinton ran a lousy geographic campaign strategy.
    do you really think she could have ran a strategy that would have overcome people's hatred of her?.......other than having three million Californiocators go vote in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Regardless of a few reforms Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Finland are predominantly socialist.

    If you didn’t follow the ignorant crowd and callObama a socialist, I respect that!
    They are not. Everyone of those nations has a market economy but do include socialist programs and benefits to a higher degree than the US does. They also have very high standards of living and quality of life that contradicts the criticisms of free market fundamentalist or anarcho-Libertarianist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    The people I met in Cuba were very happy. Money is simply not an important factor in their lives. They all have food and homes.
    And if you disagree with Government policy they have a very comfortable hotel with sparse accommodations and steel reinforced windows and you can actually eat meat once a week there.
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    The second largest economy on the planet is essentially a socialistic economy. Yeah, it has introduced elements of capitalism...which makes sense. But at its base, is a socialistic economy with some tweaks coming from capitalism.

    MORE THAN LIKELY IT WILL SURPASS US DURING THE LIFETIME OF PEOPLE PARTICIPATING IN THIS DISCUSSION.

    We can either learn the lesson being taught and introduce some elements of socialism into our system...or ignore it. Which is to say we can stay competitive and remain in the top spot or become second in line...or move much further down the chain.

    People like Bernie are insisting we compete for the top spot...or stay as high as possible.

    American conservatism, with their moronic obstinacy, is fighting to move us as low down on the ladder as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Where does the wealth come from that our government redistributes? Just hot off the treasuries printing press?
    Oh Wacko do you have any understanding of the history of Government?

    For the vast majority of human history to this very day Governments have been kleptocracies that take from the most productive members of society and redistribute it upwards to the elite political classes, which in our nation is largely the Capitalist class. They then use social and religious institutions to rationalize their kleptocracy and enforce at the point of a gun.

    So you argue who will pay for redistribution to the non-political elite? The same people who who’s productivity is redistributed to the political elite at the point of a gun.

    So to me your double standard on redistribution isn’t rational.

    The fact is that the stem of the economic distribution champagne glass curve is getting narrower and narrower in this nation and this is and will cause political instability and if it continues it is the elite political class who stands to lose the most as eventually it will be the productive classes who will pick up the pitch forks and go after the investment/Capitalist class who cannot protect their privileges without government redistributing the productive classes productivity upwards to their class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    do you really think she could have ran a strategy that would have overcome people's hatred of her?.......other than having three million Californiocators go vote in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania........
    Math isn’t your strong point is it? She did...by three million votes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Math isn’t your strong point is it? She did...by three million votes.
    Apparently math isn't yours. 304 > 227 and it's the ONLY type of vote that mattered in determining the winner. If you don't like how the current system works, I suggest getting off your ass and doing something to change it. The same founding fathers that created the system that has elected the previous winners also put in place a method to change the system we currently use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    So racist whites don't understand socialism in the U.S. because racist whites hate socialism. But all the non racist whites in the U.S. like and want socialism?

    If you're 60 years old and have no clue about the minimum wage arguments there is nothing I can do to help you. I gave you a place where you can look it up. Take some initiative for a change.
    So you wont answer.

    I'm not 60, but what I do know is its an absolute lie made up by racist white men who don't want to pay living wages that raising the minimum wage hurts Blacks.

    Here's the deal, we have never raised the minimum wage so you nor your fucking racist klan even knows what would happen if we do.

    All you what if's and speculation mean nothing. If you can't see the con you believe in then that says a lot about you.

    You don't want to see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    So you wont answer.

    I'm not 60, but what I do know is its an absolute lie made up by racist white men who don't want to pay living wages that raising the minimum wage hurts Blacks.

    Here's the deal, we have never raised the minimum wage so you nor your fucking racist klan even knows what would happen if we do.

    All you what if's and speculation mean nothing. If you can't see the con you believe in then that says a lot about you.

    You don't want to see it.
    Black unemployment was lower than white unemployment until we added a 33% minimum wage increase in the mid 50's. Then their unemployment numbers doubled with whites being largely unaffected. That trend continued for the next 25 years. You should also look up the history behind Roosevelt's high minimum wages on his federal projects. They weren't put in place to help black folks. Quite the opposite. But don't take our word for it. As has been mentioned earlier, read some stuff by Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell. They aren't exactly Klan material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    So you wont answer.

    I'm not 60, but what I do know is its an absolute lie made up by racist white men who don't want to pay living wages that raising the minimum wage hurts Blacks.

    Here's the deal, we have never raised the minimum wage so you nor your fucking racist klan even knows what would happen if we do.

    All you what if's and speculation mean nothing. If you can't see the con you believe in then that says a lot about you.

    You don't want to see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Other than with military contracts, you are correct.
    That, again, is hiring a company who hired the folks, not the government. The government has employees, but all it produces is intangibles, it cannot "create" magic jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Yet Libertarianism turned Somalia into a paradise? Strawman.
    Anarchy is not Libertarianism. But a Socialist "republic" is definitely socialist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt McGirt View Post
    Black unemployment was lower than white unemployment until we added a 33% minimum wage increase in the mid 50's. Then their unemployment numbers doubled with whites being largely unaffected. That trend continued for the next 25 years. You should also look up the history behind Roosevelt's high minimum wages on his federal projects. They weren't put in place to help black folks. Quite the opposite. But don't take our word for it. As has been mentioned earlier, read some stuff by Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell. They aren't exactly Klan material.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    If you can't see the con you believe in then that says a lot about you

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