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    You RWers are pretty desperate to believe that the Orange Man-Child is an innocent victim, Hillary's a felon-in-waiting, and any.second.now someone's gonna provide the definitive proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    The evidence seems to suggest that the Deep Staters were either lousy conspirators or they were pro Trump.

    Why does no one want to talk about this?
    Wow, you are either incredibly stupid, or wilfully ignorant IN THE EXTREME.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    You RWers are pretty desperate to believe that the Orange Man-Child is an innocent victim, Hillary's a felon-in-waiting, and any.second.now someone's gonna provide the definitive proof.
    It's the Fox narrative.
    Forgive them, they hear nothing else all day and all night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    You RWers are pretty desperate to believe that the Orange Man-Child is an innocent victim, Hillary's a felon-in-waiting, and any.second.now someone's gonna provide the definitive proof.
    Desperate? I don't think a complete lack of evidence points to "desperate", but whatever floats your boat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    your reading is selective. But the premise that Mccabe would flip isn't hard to follow either.
    He's probably going to face some hard time if he doesn't. No doubt Strzok and Page are singing -they still have jobs

    I'm more interested in the founding document of the FBI investigation/ DoJ pressure to end the Clinton Foundation investigation & FISA abuse..

    it's all going to come out, and this isn't some farcical "Russian collusion" narrative
    made from whole cloth that fades into nothing
    Not selective, I described the article perfectly, and gave you a perfect analogy with Cohen, Trump, and Russian hookers, but what I didn't do was from there go on and repeat the same unproven innuendos regarding Trump as you did with Strzok and Page, Clinton Foundation, FISA, and the "Russian collusion narrative"

    Guarantee you still can't see it

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Desperate? I don't think a complete lack of evidence points to "desperate", but whatever floats your boat.
    There is plenty of evidence even without the Mueller report that the Trump associates have been breaking the law. Yet even after months of exhaustive investigations, there is no evidence that Clinton did.

    Sorry. We should all start practicing how to hear "President Pence" w/o puking. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    Now we're looking at this DoJ character who wanted Mccabe to shutdown the Clinton Foundation probe.

    I looked into it. Get this:

    3 November 2016
    - Clintons accused of running a pay-for-play operation out of State that favored donors to their charity
    - Feds are 'actively and aggressively pursuing' a case, Fox's Bret Baier said Wednesday
    - The law enforcement agency has at least four other investigations open that involve the Clintons
    etc. etc.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz5DXJ93uOT

    That was the week before the election and it was all over the MSM! Not a word about the Trump-Russia investigation though. And you still say the FBI top brass was conspiring against Trump?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Not selective, I described the article perfectly, and gave you a perfect analogy with Cohen, Trump, and Russian hookers, but what I didn't do was from there go on and repeat the same unproven innuendos regarding Trump as you did with Strzok and Page, Clinton Foundation, FISA, and the "Russian collusion narrative"

    Guarantee you still can't see it
    where did you mention Trump and Russian hookers ,and for what reason?
    Of COURSE it's "unproven" - we haven't even seen the IG report yet, but we know the various investigations are underway - that's not innuendo as you call it. it's based on fact.
    You guys were all convinced of Russian collusion- or obstruction of whatever. Many Dems in Congress are STILL calling for impeachment!

    The IG has not denied the DoJ phone call to squash. Strozk/Page -why are they still there while Rubiki/Baker/Comey/Mccabe are gone or fired.. that's speculation on my part for sure, but it's backed up and not "Innuendo"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    I looked into it. Get this:

    3 November 2016
    - Clintons accused of running a pay-for-play operation out of State that favored donors to their charity
    - Feds are 'actively and aggressively pursuing' a case, Fox's Bret Baier said Wednesday
    - The law enforcement agency has at least four other investigations open that involve the Clintons
    etc. etc.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz5DXJ93uOT

    That was the week before the election and it was all over the MSM! Not a word about the Trump-Russia investigation though. And you still say the FBI top brass was conspiring against Trump?!
    the question isn't IF there was a Clinton Foundation investigation, it WHY it was attempted to be squashed by DoJ as outlined in the OP.

    The Mccabe part of the IG report was released and does not deny the phone call to do so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    I’ve always suspected Comey was forced to reopen the Clinton investigation by internal machinations in the agency. It makes no sense that Comey would go out of his way to clear Hillary only to jeopardize her candidacy later on.

    There was something going behind the scenes—and now we know.
    Weiner's laptop emails were discovered in an unrelated investigation ... out of Stzrok's control. So yes, too many apolitical agents knew about it for Stzrok to be able to cover it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Weiner's laptop emails were discovered in an unrelated investigation ... out of Stzrok's control. So yes, too many apolitical agents knew about it for Stzrok to be able to cover it up.
    that's right!
    It was the weiner probe of his laptop

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    The news reports have all focused on the FBI’s second-in-command leaking information to the Wall Street Journal – or authorizing subordinates to do so -- and then lying to investigators about it. This is big news, provided that account is borne out by a subsequent criminal indictment and successful prosecution.

    The news will be even bigger if Andrew McCabe pursues a scorched-earth policy against his FBI superior, James Comey, who started the investigation of his deputy. Even a prosecutor fresh out of law school ought to be able to flip McCabe, who is facing serious jail time and thinks he has been betrayed. Such men are dangerous.

    McCabe’s testimony is the best way to learn why the FBI and Department of Justice seemingly mishandled everything related to Hillary Clinton and how the intelligence agencies routinely funneled classified material on Donald Trump to friendly news agencies. If there was a high-level conspiracy to obstruct justice in the Clinton investigation or to use the so-called “Deep State” to smear Trump, McCabe would know a lot about it.

    He could also respond to the stunning allegation recently leveled by Rep. Devin Nunes, the California Republican who chairs the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. On Sunday, Nunes told Fox News anchorwoman Maria Bartiromo, “We now know that there was no official intelligence that was used to start this investigation” of Trump’s aides. Nunes has read the classified materials, and he is making a deeply troubling allegation: An official investigation was mounted against an American presidential campaign with no official information to support it. If so, then U.S. intelligence and law-enforcement agencies were weaponized for partisan purposes. McCabe would know about that, too, or know if it is untrue.

    So would Peter Strzok, number two in the FBI’s counterintelligence section, and his paramour, Lisa Page. They may be talking to investigators already. That would be the most plausible explanation for why they haven’t been fired. As long as they are still on the government payroll, they are available to Inspector General Michael Horowitz and his team of investigators. There are also credible reports that Strzok’s boss, Bill Priestap, is now a cooperating witness. His name is rarely heard in public, but he would have a goldmine of information.

    Although the public focus has been on McCabe’s reported deceptions, one of his presumably truthful comments about the Department of Justice may be even more significant. He said flatly that during the last months of the Obama administration, high-ranking Justice Department officials tried to kill the FBI’s on-going investigation into the Clinton Foundation. It happened in a phone call from DOJ’s third-highest official. Although unidentified in the report, the reference apparently is to Matthew Axelrod, whose title at the time was principal associate deputy attorney general.

    The 35-page report goes on to say that, by leaking that conversation, McCabe was trying “to make himself look good by making senior department leadership, specifically the Principal Associate Deputy Attorney General, look bad,” Well, yeah.

    The same logic should apply to the misappropriated, classified memos James Comey leaked through his friend at Columbia Law School. Comey has said they were meant to force the appointment of a special counsel.

    Those leaks do make senior law-enforcement leaders look bad. Actually, they make them look politically corrupt. The Horowitz report does not dispute that the DOJ call to McCabe took place or that it was meant to quash a legitimate FBI investigation of the Clinton Foundation. If that is confirmed, it is a perversion of the Justice Department and its core function of unbiased application of the law.

    We need to know if McCabe is telling the truth about direct political pressure to help the Clintons. If he is, we need to know who told the DOJ official to make that call. That explanation needs to be under oath before a grand jury, since it smells a lot like obstruction of justice and may involve his bosses. All of them are high-level political appointees.

    According to a Wall Street Journal article, McCabe says he stood straight and tall and “reiterated past instructions to FBI agents that they were to keep pursuing the work within the authority they had.” But that’s based on McCabe’s self-serving leak. The FBI agents under his command say he was more like a supine munchkin, carrying out the wishes of Loretta Lynch’s people. FBI agents investigating the Clinton Foundation “were given a much starker instruction on the case: ‘Stand down,’” according to the Journal report. “When agents questioned why they weren’t allowed to take more aggressive steps, they said they were told the order had come from the deputy director -- Mr. McCabe.” Again, that looks like possible obstruction of justice, done for explicitly partisan-political reasons.

    Somebody’s lying here, and maybe more than one person. All these players are, or were, high-ranking officials at the FBI and DOJ. All of them ought to explain themselves before a grand jury. Since those proceedings are secret and indictments take time, we need public reports, and soon, from Horowitz’s office about these allegations. Was there a political attempt by the Department of Justice to protect the Clinton Foundation from an FBI investigation? Was Loretta Lynch herself involved? Was the White House or were the Clintons? Or did McCabe do all this on his own to protect the Clintons?

    The OIG report does not dispute the statement, made in the Journal article, that the DOJ official “was ‘very pissed off,’ according to one person close to Mr. McCabe, and pressed him to explain why the FBI was still chasing a matter the Department [of Justice] considered dormant.” As you may have guessed, that “person close to Mr. McCabe” stared at him every morning when he shaved.

    Unfortunately, it looks as though a lot of top officials at the FBI and DOJ were shaving the law, violating our basic constitutional promise that the rules must be applied fairly to everyone. That must include the powerful. Equal treatment must include the men and women who lead the agencies we entrust to collect sensitive information, keep it secret, and enforce the law. They are not exempt, like the king’s courtiers or the dictator’s oligarchs. There is spreading evidence that, in the final year of the Obama administration, our country’s top law-enforcement and intelligence officials failed in that most basic responsibility. We need to know if they did, and we need to know who put them up to it.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...rt_136882.html
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    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...ns_127758.html

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    If the FBI officially determines classified material was being held on the server, or foreign intelligence agencies hacked into it, or official materials were erased and not turned over to the courts, as Clinton stated under oath she had, then Director Comey will face the hardest decision of his professional life. If he recommends prosecution and the DOJ refuses, you can be sure an infuriated intelligence community will leak the news. That would be fatal to Clinton politically since it would smell like a cover-up. It is possible, of course, that the investigations will give Secretary Clinton a clean bill of health. But it is far more likely that they will bring legal peril, and, with it, political disaster.


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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    the question isn't IF there was a Clinton Foundation investigation, it WHY it was attempted to be squashed by DoJ as outlined in the OP.
    The question is WHY were the various Clinton investigations all over the MSM in the run-up to the election, and NOTHING about the Trump-Russia investigation. Does that sound like an anti-Trump conspiracy to you?

    What happened to those Clinton investigations, btw? Eighteen months later we don't hear about them. They served their purpose, I guess. "Feds are 'actively and aggressively pursuing' a case," Fox's Bret Baier said. Lol.

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