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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris The Animal View Post
    Actually, we do know. Revelation 20 talks of the Great White Throne and all unbelievers will be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Revelation was written by men and men are fallible.
    Revelation is the inerrant Word of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris The Animal View Post
    Actually, we do know. Revelation 20 talks of the Great White Throne and all unbelievers will be there.

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    Obviously written by a mentally unstable person who lost all touch with reality


    Hallucination, or Divine Revelation?
    "Madness" used to be considered an affliction of the spirit—demonic possessions, or Godly visions. Now it's treated as a medical issue. What does this mean for contemporary believers?


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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    The bible thumping fundy's don't realize sunday worship and jesus is named a god was instituted by the catholic church in 325 C.E at the Council of Nicaea
    I'm sorry.......why do you keep making up lies about Christianity?.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    I always laugh at them, because if Catholics aren't Christians, then Christ lived 2000 years ago, but there were no Christians until sometime in the past 500 years.
    Indeed. I am actually shocked at how many evangelicals think Catholics are some kind of cult, certainly not Christians.

    I have also blown many minds when I tell bible thumping evangelicals that the Eastern Orthodox is two thousand years old, really they are the original Christians...far more ancient than the Baptists or Pentacostals. Bible thumpers are literally incredulous when they hear that, and actually really don't even believe me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    The Bible tells us exactly how he judges and why. We kinda need to know that type of basic information as grow and learn his ways. We don't know EVERYTHING, but we do learn what he DOES want us to know.
    Your interpretation doesn't allow for the belief that God is perfect, omniscient, omnipotent, and all-loving. You guys miss the forest because of your focus on the trees.


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    It's basically simple. A follower of Christ follows the teachings of Christ from the Holy Scriptures, not the man-made traditions and legalisms which many formulated later.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    It is quite humorous when believers threaten non believers with eternal hell and agony as if that is going to sway us to becoming believers. Threats of violence...yeah that will win us over to believing in your vindictive petty jealous god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Indeed. I am actually shocked at how many evangelicals think Catholics are some kind of cult, certainly not Christians.

    I have also blown many minds when I tell bible thumping evangelicals that the Eastern Orthodox is two thousand years old, really they are the original Christians...far more ancient than the Baptists or Pentacostals. Bible thumpers are literally incredulous when they hear that, and actually really don't even believe me.
    ^ Yep that's true. I've seen this bumper sticker that reads "Orthodoxy - Proclaiming the Truth Since A.D. 33"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    It's basically simple. A follower of Christ follows the teachings of Christ from the Holy Scriptures, not the man-made traditions and legalisms which many formulated later.
    And that'w what Catholics follow. I don't know what you mean by legalisms and man-made traditions. Seems like it could apply to a number of Protestant sects.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha68 View Post
    It is quite humorous when believers threaten non believers with eternal hell and agony as if that is going to sway us to becoming believers. Threats of violence...yeah that will win us over to believing in your vindictive petty jealous god.
    Who is threatening you? You're argument is with God, not us. All I can do is present what God says about salvation. The rest? It's between you and God. Fight it out with him.....or not if he doesn't interest you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Indeed. I am actually shocked at how many evangelicals think Catholics are some kind of cult, certainly not Christians.

    I have also blown many minds when I tell bible thumping evangelicals that the Eastern Orthodox is two thousand years old, really they are the original Christians...far more ancient than the Baptists or Pentacostals. Bible thumpers are literally incredulous when they hear that, and actually really don't even believe me.
    They also get upset if you point out that were it not for Martin Luther, they'd still be Catholics themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Your interpretation doesn't allow for the belief that God is perfect, omniscient, omnipotent, and all-loving. You guys miss the forest because of your focus on the trees.
    ????....don't be silly.....a perfect, omniscient, omnipotent, and all-loving God can certainly tell you that he so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life......Christ died for you on a tree that was not in a forest......

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    ^ Yep that's true. I've seen this bumper sticker that reads "Orthodoxy - Proclaiming the Truth Since A.D. 33"
    That's bloody awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    And that'w what Catholics follow.
    so please tell me what Catholics follow.......has the Pope abandoned the edicts of the 60s that said salvation comes solely from faith in Jesus Christ or is he now saying, as this thread claims, that even people who deny that God exists will be in heaven?.......
    http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/po...ration_en.html

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