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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris The Animal View Post
    Because what he is saying contradicts the Word of God. John wrote of the False Prophet in the Book of Revelation.
    No, it does not. But I've heard the false prophet lie from others of your religious persuasion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris The Animal View Post
    If they don't believe the Biblical plan of Salvation, then they are NOT saved.
    The Catholic religion is based on THE BIBLE and sacred tradition. Please educate yourself. And remember that only God can judge.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Do you ever get the impression that a lot of bible thumpers and evangelicals actually don't know that much about religion? I do.

    Because I have met plenty of evangelical bible thumpers who don't know that Catholics are Christians. Don't know that Muslims revere Jesus and believe in the same God. Don't know much at all about the history of Christianity. And aren't even really that curious to find out.
    I always laugh at them, because if Catholics aren't Christians, then Christ lived 2000 years ago, but there were no Christians until sometime in the past 500 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    The Catholic religion is based on THE BIBLE and sacred tradition. Please educate yourself. And remember that only God can judge.
    Anything outside of the Bible is not the final authority. Martin Luther was correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    The Catholic religion is based on THE BIBLE and sacred tradition. Please educate yourself. And remember that only God can judge.
    what do you believe, as a Catholic, that God judges.......does he judge whether you have been bad or good?.......or does he judge whether you believe in him?.......because I can remember that back in the 60s the Church issued an edict that salvation hinges not upon works but upon faith in Jesus Christ......is that changing?.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    how do you feel about someone saying the pope believes you don't have to believe in God to go to heaven......
    I've said it before. There's a red line in religious teachings I won't cross, and that it presuming to know how God is going to judge people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    what do you believe, as a Catholic, that God judges.......does he judge whether you have been bad or good?.......or does he judge whether you believe in him?.......
    Nobody knows how he judges. Not you, not me, nobody.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    I always laugh at them, because if Catholics aren't Christians, then Christ lived 2000 years ago, but there were no Christians until sometime in the past 500 years.
    Those who followed Christ and His teachings were simply called believers, whether they were Jews, Gentiles or pagans who came to Christ as their Savior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    I always laugh at them, because if Catholics aren't Christians, then Christ lived 2000 years ago, but there were no Christians until sometime in the past 500 years.
    They must think Christianity started with Luther.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    I've said it before. There's a red line in religious teachings I won't cross, and that it presuming to know how God is going to judge people.
    doesn't the Bible tell us precisely how God is going to judge people in John 3?.....
    18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

    is that a red line?.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Nobody knows how he judges. Not you, not me, nobody.
    Actually, we do know. Revelation 20 talks of the Great White Throne and all unbelievers will be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Nobody knows how he judges. Not you, not me, nobody.
    ???....I'm pretty sure that's not what your priest taught you......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris The Animal View Post
    Anything outside of the Bible is not the final authority. Martin Luther was correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Nobody knows how he judges. Not you, not me, nobody.
    The Bible tells us exactly how he judges and why. We kinda need to know that type of basic information as grow and learn his ways. We don't know EVERYTHING, but we do learn what he DOES want us to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    I always laugh at them, because if Catholics aren't Christians, then Christ lived 2000 years ago, but there were no Christians until sometime in the past 500 years.
    The bible thumping fundy's don't realize sunday worship and jesus is named a god was instituted by the catholic church in 325 C.E at the Council of Nicaea
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