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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    the FBI became a liability with no credibility after ruby ridge.
    How did taking out some trash make them a liability?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Even stipulating that both the Trump/Russia thing and this stuff with the FBI are both conspiracy theories [sorry lefties, if one is they both are] the latter one is much bigger.

    It would be the biggest scandal in the history of our politics.
    Re: "...if one is they both are"

    What bass-ackwards attempt at logic led you to that hare-brained conclusion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Fixed that for you.
    Like paying for a dossier against your political opponent in order to get a warrant or an investigation started?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaya View Post
    Like paying for a dossier against your political opponent in order to get a warrant or an investigation started?
    Too bad for you, that's not what happened.

    Keep trying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    with the Washington wagons circling the agency to protect it from charges of corruption.
    This time, the appropriate tag line is “too big to believe.”


    A movement to release the memo is gaining steam, but Congress says it might take weeks. Why wait? Americans can handle the truth, no matter how big it is.

    https://nypost.com/2018/01/23/eviden...n=site+buttons
    Of course you realize that written three months ago, and is partially based upon Nunes's memo which hadn't even been written yet and the "secret societies" innuendo that turned out to be one hundred percent bogus

    That's how you conservatives get all these unproven conspiracies in your head, you hear them once and you take them as accurate

    And just to help you out, the NYP is a Murdoch tabloid, great sports page, which is why it is sold, and political cartoons, you'd love them, but politically, it is straight Murdoch, and Goodwin is a team player, if you ever read his opinion pieces on NY politics you'd recognize it right away

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    with the Washington wagons circling the agency to protect it from charges of corruption.
    This time, the appropriate tag line is “too big to believe.”


    A movement to release the memo is gaining steam, but Congress says it might take weeks. Why wait? Americans can handle the truth, no matter how big it is.

    https://nypost.com/2018/01/23/eviden...n=site+buttons
    Of course you realize that written three months ago, and is partially based upon Nunes's memo as facts even though it hadn't even been written yet and the "secret societies" innuendo that turned out to be one hundred percent bogus, actually an embarrassment to a lot of Congressmen who were pushing it

    That's how you conservatives get all these unproven conspiracies in your head, you hear them once and you take them as accurate

    And just to help you out, the NYP is a Murdoch tabloid, great sports page, which is why it is sold, and political cartoons, you'd love them, but politically, it is straight Murdoch, and Goodwin is a team player, if you ever read his opinion pieces on NY politics you'd recognize it right away

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    with the Washington wagons circling the agency to protect it from charges of corruption.
    This time, the appropriate tag line is “too big to believe.”

    Yet each day brings credible reports suggesting there is a massive scandal involving the top ranks of America’s premier law enforcement agency. The reports, which feature talk among agents of a “secret society” and suddenly missing text messages, point to the existence both of a cabal dedicated to defeating Donald Trump in 2016 and of a plan to let Hillary Clinton skate free in the classified email probe.

    If either one is true — and I believe both probably are — it would mean FBI leaders betrayed the nation by abusing their powers in a bid to pick the president.

    More support for this view involves the FBI’s use of the Russian dossier on Trump that was paid for by the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee. It is almost certain that the FBI used the dossier to get FISA court warrants to spy on Trump associates, meaning it used the opposition research of the party in power to convince a court to let it spy on the candidate of the other party — likely without telling the court of the dossier’s political link.

    Even worse, there is growing reason to believe someone in President Barack Obama’s administration turned over classified information about Trump to the Clinton campaign.

    As one former federal prosecutor put it, “It doesn’t get worse than that.” That prosecutor, Joseph *diGenova, believes Trump was correct when he claimed Obama aides wiretapped his phones at Trump Tower.

    These and other elements combine to make a toxic brew that smells to high heaven, but most Americans don’t know much about it. Mainstream media coverage has been sparse and dismissive and there’s a blackout from the same Democrats obsessed with Russia, Russia, Russia.

    Partisan motives aside, it’s as if a scandal of this magnitude is more than America can bear — so let’s pretend there’s nothing to see and move along.

    But, thankfully, the disgraceful episode won’t be washed away, thanks to a handful of congressional Republicans, led by California Rep. Devin Nunes, chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. After he accused the FBI of stonewalling in turning over records, the bureau relented, at least partially.

    The result was clear evidence of bias against Trump by officials charged with investigating him and Clinton. Those same agents appear to have acted on that bias to tilt the election to Clinton.

    In one text message, an agent suggests that Attorney General Loretta Lynch knew while the investigation was still going on that the FBI would not recommend charges against Clinton.

    How could she know unless the fix was in?

    All roads in the explosive developments lead to James Comey, whose Boy Scout image belied a sinister belief that he, like his infamous predecessor J. Edgar Hoover, was above the law.

    It is why I named him J. Edgar Comey last year and wrote that he was “adept at using innuendo and leaks” to let everybody in Washington know they could be the next to be investigated.

    It was in the office of Comey’s top deputy, Andrew McCabe, where agents discussed an “insurance policy” in the event that Trump won. Reports indicated that the Russia collusion probe was that insurance policy.

    The text was from Peter Strzok, the top investigator on the Trump case, and was sent to Lisa Page, an FBI lawyer and also his mistress.

    “I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office — that there’s no way he gets elected — but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk. It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40 . . .,” Strzok wrote.

    It is frightening that Strzok, who called Trump “an idiot,” was the lead investigator on both the Clinton and Trump cases.

    After these messages surfaced, special counsel Robert Mueller removed Strzok and Page from his probe, though both still work at the FBI.

    Strzok, despite his talk of an “insurance policy” in 2016, wrote in May 2017 that he was skeptical that Mueller’s probe would find anything on Trump because “there’s no big there there.”

    Talk about irony. While Dems and the left-wing media already found Trump guilty of collusion before Mueller was appointed, the real scandal might be the conduct of the probers themselves.

    Suspicions are hardly allayed by the fact that the FBI says it can’t find five months of messages between Strzok and Page, who exchanged an estimated 50,000 messages overall. The missing period — Dec. 14, 2016, through May 17, 2017 — was a crucial time in Washington.

    There were numerous leaks of classified material just before and after Trump’s inauguration on Jan. 20.

    And the president fired Comey last May 9, provoking an intense lobbying effort for a special counsel, which led to Mueller’s appointment on May 19.


    Jeff Sessions, the attorney general, has emerged from his hidey hole to notice that the FBI has run amok, and said Monday he would “leave no stone unturned” to find the five months of missing texts.

    Fine, but the House is racing ahead of him. Nunes has prepared a four-page memo, based on classified material that purportedly lays out what the FBI and others did to corrupt the election.

    A movement to release the memo is gaining steam, but Congress says it might take weeks. Why wait? Americans can handle the truth, no matter how big it is.
    https://nypost.com/2018/01/23/eviden...n=site+buttons
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    The 7th floor cabal. Priceless!

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Of course you realize that written three months ago, and is partially based upon Nunes's memo as facts even though it hadn't even been written yet and the "secret societies" innuendo that turned out to be one hundred percent bogus, actually an embarrassment to a lot of Congressmen who were pushing it

    That's how you conservatives get all these unproven conspiracies in your head, you hear them once and you take them as accurate

    And just to help you out, the NYP is a Murdoch tabloid, great sports page, which is why it is sold, and political cartoons, you'd love them, but politically, it is straight Murdoch, and Goodwin is a team player, if you ever read his opinion pieces on NY politics you'd recognize it right away
    i know. but I habe been accused of cherry picking OP's - so I left in the "secret societies"

    I probably should have just linked this on the DS thread. I found it a good outline, and almost all of it has already happened.
    But for teh willfully ignorant -there it is

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    Comey and Lynch should be jailed for what they've done.
    Keep changing the names. It doesn't change the meaning.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    Comey and Lynch should be jailed for what they've done.
    Far right American conservatives should be institutionalized for what they've done...and what they are doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    Comey and Lynch should be jailed for what they've done.
    Wait a minute, I thought Hillary was supposed to be in jail, or was that last month's scapegoat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    with the Washington wagons circling the agency to protect it from charges of corruption.
    This time, the appropriate tag line is “too big to believe.”

    Yet each day brings credible reports suggesting there is a massive scandal involving the top ranks of America’s premier law enforcement agency. The reports, which feature talk among agents of a “secret society” and suddenly missing text messages, point to the existence both of a cabal dedicated to defeating Donald Trump in 2016 and of a plan to let Hillary Clinton skate free in the classified email probe.

    If either one is true — and I believe both probably are — it would mean FBI leaders betrayed the nation by abusing their powers in a bid to pick the president.

    More support for this view involves the FBI’s use of the Russian dossier on Trump that was paid for by the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee. It is almost certain that the FBI used the dossier to get FISA court warrants to spy on Trump associates, meaning it used the opposition research of the party in power to convince a court to let it spy on the candidate of the other party — likely without telling the court of the dossier’s political link.

    Even worse, there is growing reason to believe someone in President Barack Obama’s administration turned over classified information about Trump to the Clinton campaign.

    As one former federal prosecutor put it, “It doesn’t get worse than that.” That prosecutor, Joseph *diGenova, believes Trump was correct when he claimed Obama aides wiretapped his phones at Trump Tower.

    These and other elements combine to make a toxic brew that smells to high heaven, but most Americans don’t know much about it. Mainstream media coverage has been sparse and dismissive and there’s a blackout from the same Democrats obsessed with Russia, Russia, Russia.

    Partisan motives aside, it’s as if a scandal of this magnitude is more than America can bear — so let’s pretend there’s nothing to see and move along.

    But, thankfully, the disgraceful episode won’t be washed away, thanks to a handful of congressional Republicans, led by California Rep. Devin Nunes, chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. After he accused the FBI of stonewalling in turning over records, the bureau relented, at least partially.

    The result was clear evidence of bias against Trump by officials charged with investigating him and Clinton. Those same agents appear to have acted on that bias to tilt the election to Clinton.

    In one text message, an agent suggests that Attorney General Loretta Lynch knew while the investigation was still going on that the FBI would not recommend charges against Clinton.

    How could she know unless the fix was in?

    All roads in the explosive developments lead to James Comey, whose Boy Scout image belied a sinister belief that he, like his infamous predecessor J. Edgar Hoover, was above the law.

    It is why I named him J. Edgar Comey last year and wrote that he was “adept at using innuendo and leaks” to let everybody in Washington know they could be the next to be investigated.

    It was in the office of Comey’s top deputy, Andrew McCabe, where agents discussed an “insurance policy” in the event that Trump won. Reports indicated that the Russia collusion probe was that insurance policy.

    The text was from Peter Strzok, the top investigator on the Trump case, and was sent to Lisa Page, an FBI lawyer and also his mistress.

    “I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office — that there’s no way he gets elected — but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk. It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40 . . .,” Strzok wrote.

    It is frightening that Strzok, who called Trump “an idiot,” was the lead investigator on both the Clinton and Trump cases.

    After these messages surfaced, special counsel Robert Mueller removed Strzok and Page from his probe, though both still work at the FBI.

    Strzok, despite his talk of an “insurance policy” in 2016, wrote in May 2017 that he was skeptical that Mueller’s probe would find anything on Trump because “there’s no big there there.”

    Talk about irony. While Dems and the left-wing media already found Trump guilty of collusion before Mueller was appointed, the real scandal might be the conduct of the probers themselves.

    Suspicions are hardly allayed by the fact that the FBI says it can’t find five months of messages between Strzok and Page, who exchanged an estimated 50,000 messages overall. The missing period — Dec. 14, 2016, through May 17, 2017 — was a crucial time in Washington.

    There were numerous leaks of classified material just before and after Trump’s inauguration on Jan. 20.

    And the president fired Comey last May 9, provoking an intense lobbying effort for a special counsel, which led to Mueller’s appointment on May 19.


    Jeff Sessions, the attorney general, has emerged from his hidey hole to notice that the FBI has run amok, and said Monday he would “leave no stone unturned” to find the five months of missing texts.

    Fine, but the House is racing ahead of him. Nunes has prepared a four-page memo, based on classified material that purportedly lays out what the FBI and others did to corrupt the election.

    A movement to release the memo is gaining steam, but Congress says it might take weeks. Why wait? Americans can handle the truth, no matter how big it is.
    https://nypost.com/2018/01/23/eviden...n=site+buttons
    The "secret society" was debunked long ago, Homer.

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    "a good outline, and almost all of it has already happened," not really

    Goodwin - "each day brings credible reports suggesting there is a massive scandal involving the top ranks of America’s premier law enforcement agency. The reports, which feature talk among agents of a “secret society” and suddenly missing text messages, point to the existence both of a cabal dedicated to defeating Donald Trump in 2016" [B]Hasn't so far three months later, and "points to" doesn't mean it exists/B]

    Goodwin -"IF either one is true," and neither has proven such yet

    Goodwin - "It is almost certain that the FBI used the dossier to get FISA court warrants," which again the charge that that is all they employed has yet to be proven

    And the remainder goes on putting a lot of faith in Nunes's yet to be released memo and a regurgitation of the Strzok/Page Emails

    Hardly an outline of what has occurred and definitely doesn't prove the conspiracy Goodwin is implying

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    Trump has removed "evidence based" from the governmental lexicon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    How did taking out some trash make them a liability?
    hey, we have another fuckstick who celebrates the murder of unarmed women holding their infants behind solid doors. congratulations.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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