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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Powers was ambassador to the UN...
    right. she is NOT an investigatior like the NSC-why did she do all the un-masking?
    and she denies even doing it?

    I think somebody did it in her name *speculation*
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    we have feedback from Mueller and Rosenstein that Trump is not a target.
    WTF does this have to do wit the Deep State?
    I didn't mention Trump. I mentioned Mueller and how it connects to your actual comment about investigating and looking at facts and see where they lead. You want us to do that with regards to the Deep State but ignore it when Mueller does it with his investigation? You get to decide which one is a conspiracy and which one is fact?

    That is hypocrisy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    There were a ton of reasons Hillary lost - she was a weak candidate who ran a terrible campaign.

    Yet w/ all of that, she still would have won w/out that letter consuming the final week of the campaign. That is undeniable.

    Comey's letter has everything to do w/ any kind of lunatic conspiracy theory about a "deep state" that has an agenda.
    blah blah..Comey was acting as a prosecutor,,nothing to do with intellignce

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha68 View Post
    I didn't mention Trump. I mentioned Mueller and how it connects to your actual comment about investigating and looking at facts and see where they lead. You want us to do that with regards to the Deep State but ignore it when Mueller does it with his investigation? You get to decide which one is a conspiracy and which one is fact?

    That is hypocrisy.
    Mueller is connecting dots.. OK whatever. no argument there

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    Normally, visiting dignitaries like Prince Mohammed inform the U.S. government of their travel. In this case, he didn't and proceeded to take a lengthy meeting with the incoming administration. Participants from both sides tell me the meeting covered a range of topics about the Middle East -- Iranian expansion, the war in Yemen, counterterrorism. Neither Emirati nor U.S. participants said they broached the prospect of a channel to Russia.

    Unmasking Kushner, Bannon and Flynn in that meeting is not in and of itself evidence of political spying. It does not support Trump's claim that Obama had tapped Trump Tower. It doesn't rise to the level of a scandal. What's more, Republicans like Representative Trey Gowdy have praised Rice for her openness this month in her closed-session testimony before the House Intelligence Committee, and reiterated a point made by that committee's chairman, Devin Nunes, that Rice did not violate the law by requesting that some U.S. persons in intelligence reports be unmasked. Rice, according to sources familiar with her testimony, reiterated that she never leaked the information she unmasked.

    Gowdy is still trying to get answers. He told me Monday, "The issues are serious enough to warrant an open-minded, objective review, but we don't have all the information necessary to draw to a conclusion."


    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...-era-unmasking

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    right. she is NOT an investigatior like the NSC-why did she do all the un-masking?
    and she denies even doing it?

    I think somebody did it in her name *speculation*

    She didn't .. your grasp of the facts is sloppy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    blah blah..Comey was acting as a prosecutor,,nothing to do with intellignce
    You're just plugging up your ears now, and saying "nyah, nyah."

    There is no deep state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    it will be labeled

    how the republican party committed suicide
    As much as I don't like Trump he is what we needed. One reason he was elected was to blow up the system, and it has been blown up and exposed.
    Most of us knew it was corrupt but we're now seeing how corrupt it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    She didn't .. your grasp of the facts is sloppy.
    Samantha Power denies serial unmasking

    It has been reported that Samantha Power, while serving as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, requested or initiated a request for more than 260 unmaskings of Americans whose conversations were picked up during surveillance. But today, according to Rep. Trey Gowdy, Power denied making anything close to that number of unmasking requests.
    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...-unmasking.php

    she denies the unmasking but SOMEBODY did it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    You're just plugging up your ears now, and saying "nyah, nyah."

    There is no deep state.
    Ok Mr. Democrat whatever you say. I got no use for closed minds. Your objection is not about intelligence
    it's about Comey's decisions as investigator/prosecutor

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloysious View Post
    As much as I don't like Trump he is what we needed. One reason he was elected was to blow up the system, and it has been blown up and exposed.
    Most of us knew it was corrupt but we're now seeing how corrupt it was.
    we're shining some light on the cockroaches, but they scatter and hide and partisans aren't interested.
    but we are making progress - much more then a year ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Ok Mr. Democrat whatever you say. I got no use for closed minds. Your objection is not about intelligence
    it's about Comey's decisions as investigator/prosecutor
    I'm not a Democrat, and my mind isn't closed. I'm just logical about what a conspiracy like the one you keep talking about would involve - it's not possible to orchestrate it and keep it secret for any length of time. That is simply a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Samantha Power denies serial unmasking

    It has been reported that Samantha Power, while serving as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, requested or initiated a request for more than 260 unmaskings of Americans whose conversations were picked up during surveillance. But today, according to Rep. Trey Gowdy, Power denied making anything close to that number of unmasking requests.
    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...-unmasking.php

    she denies the unmasking but SOMEBODY did it!

    I posted a report from bloomberg and they usually make an effort to do good reporting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    I'm not a Democrat, and my mind isn't closed. I'm just logical about what a conspiracy like the one you keep talking about would involve - it's not possible to orchestrate it and keep it secret for any length of time. That is simply a fact.
    this is not a big conspiracy..it's a few individuals in leadership.
    The open question is what did the Obama folks ( like power) have to do with it.

    Look at the Strzok/Page texts . Look at Mccabes office meeting on insurance policies
    Brennan leaking to CNN -and Clappers urging Comey to brief Trump making the news hook.

    They don't even have to coordinate (conspire) on lots; of this -they just gotta have motivations which we've seen

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    I posted a report from bloomberg and they usually make an effort to do good reporting.
    bloomberg is LW hacks, but you posted on Rice, not Power
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