kudzu (04-21-2018), ThatOwlWoman (04-21-2018)
Fortunately, America has wide-awake allies.
British spies were first to spot Trump team's links with Russia
13 Apr 2017
Britain’s spy agencies played a crucial role in alerting their counterparts in Washington to contacts between members of Donald Trump’s campaign team and Russian intelligence operatives, the Guardian has been told.
GCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added.
Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.
Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...m-links-russia
kudzu (04-21-2018), ThatOwlWoman (04-21-2018)
Oompah!
The deep state is not just the enemy of the right, they are your enemy as well. I would suggest researching the deep state conspiracy theory as if you are trying to prove the conspiracy to be true. If your only goal is to discredit it, you will only find evidence that it is false.
I have learned a lot of good points that lefties have, simply by researching them as if I am a lefty myself who wants to prove the point from a lefty perspective. It can be difficult to isolate myself from my personal political stance, but when I do it long enough to study from my opponent's perspective, I learn plenty.
The Truth Does Not Need To Be Supported With Censorship.
dukkha (04-21-2018)
Frank Apisa (04-22-2018), ThatOwlWoman (04-21-2018)
How can they be my enemy when I know it simply doesn't exist as proven by the mere fact no conservative here he tells us they believe it exists can explain who or what it is beyond regurgitating the same half dozen or so individuals and the unproven innuendo they are associated with by the right wing media
For example, six months ago "secret societies" was "proof" that the "deep state" existed and we see how far that one went
Hail HYDRA.
Stop, the first line kills you, "this is all classified info dug out by Nunes"
I don't know why you people can't recognize the truth, Nunes's memo, or anything that Nunes has done, is purely, exclusively, 100%, solely NUNES'S INTEPRETATION and that is all it is, nothing else. Your line, which apparently you believe portrays Nunes's work as creditable and proof of a "deep state," is as inane as me saying everything Adam Schiff has said or done is one hundred percent accurate
Why is it so difficult to recognize the obvious?
Frank Apisa (04-22-2018), ThatOwlWoman (04-21-2018)
THE INFO IS CLASSIFIED,,Nunes memo is not a lot of speculation, but there is conclusions.
Nunes says very little about the Deep State -his focus is digging out the info from DoJ
He's threatened impeachment to do it.
The DS conclusions are based on the info-but not just the FBI, the IG report will show the abuses..
Remember this conversation when the IG report comes out -the same way Mccabe supporters kept saying Trump got Sessions to fire him,,,the IG is the one who went after Mccabe
Come on there "noise," Nunes in private supposedly reviewed thousands of pages of classified documents and came out with what was his and only his interpretation of what those documents said, it is pure speculation, Nunes's speculation, based upon circumstantial events where he implies factuality. How would that be any different than Schiff's interpretation of the same documents?
Nunes memo, or the events implied within it, are used as partial proof that this "deep state" supposedly exists, and I remembered he also threatened impeachment if the Comey memos weren't released, now that they are, nothing. The impeachment rhetoric is pure political theater, Nunes is pure political theater, he didn't get the handle "twilight Uber to the White House" for nothing
Lastly, McCabe prove nothing other than McCabe supposedly lied, you can't employ it, as conservatives are, to generalize on the entire FBI, especially considering that he is in trouble for approving the releasing of information that was helpful for the Trump campaign. What are you going to do if the IG report comes to no definitive conclusion?
ThatOwlWoman (04-21-2018)
Apparently the whack-jobs love this deep state silliness. Rather than look at the real causes of dysfunctional govt. no longer working for the people (corporate money, lobbyists, etc.), they prefer to believe in this fiction. It allows them to remain outraged yet helpless, oh-so-deeply concerned yet powerless. Whereas if we all went with the truth -- our legislators are bought and owned by the plutocracy -- then we'd have to do something more than just piss about it on a political chat board. Now who do you suppose benefits the most from this division, hmm?
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18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
44 U.S.C. 2202 - The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter.
LOCK HIM UP!
Frank Apisa (04-22-2018)
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