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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Belief in the "deep state" is no different from 9/11 truthers, or JFK conspiracy buffs.

    The logic surrounding these conspiracies is obvious for anyone who can take 2 steps back and think about it: if more than 2-3 people have to be involved in something and have knowledge of its workings, it CANNOT be kept secret. Someone will talk about it eventually - either leaking it, having a crisis of conscience, or in the end, some sort of deathbed confession.

    People who think that dozens or more can orchestrate something like this AND that it can be kept from our 24x7 media (including internet) are delusional.
    But this one is pure political and sold by the entire right wing media in an orchestrated effort regardless of evidence or validity. In the meantime, it is doing serious damage to some of the very institutions that contributes to the consensus needed in our democracy, and all for personal political ends

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    it's not conjecture..i gave you specific facts.."connecting the dots" from there is up to you.
    I'm not going to debate your closed mind, stay warm and fuzzy for all I care
    And the "connecting the dots" proves my point, pure conjecture, the conservatives themselves can not define who or what this supposed "deep state" is or what is it doing, yet it is central to a lot of the arguements they employ to rationalize the President, as I said, a lot of conservatives need an existential threat to define events

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    I'm not even going to waste my time.. I've gone over t a few times and they won't wrap their heads around it.
    It's basically manipulation of Intelligence by the IC leadership,but it's a complex interaction with media and Congress as well .Why did Powers deny she did un-masking request, and there are hundreds in her name -more and more between election and inauguration..etc etc.
    this is what it looks like when a russo bot hole tries to get Americans to hate their fellow Americans for having a job in our beautifully designed government


    they want you to hate the millions of civil servants in this nation

    it makes Putin cream his jeans

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    And the "connecting the dots" proves my point, pure conjecture, the conservatives themselves can not define who or what this supposed "deep state" is or what is it doing, yet it is central to a lot of the arguements they employ to rationalize the President, as I said, a lot of conservatives need an existential threat to define events
    WTF do you think you gotta do when your trying to get a look at classified procedures?
    You understand them as best you can,look at the players, and their actions.
    You look at any manipulations -who does it serve,and you draw conclusions.
    Then look for confirming patterns

    If you were interested, you'd do this, but you's rather rag on "RW conspirators".'The same thing you guys always do. I'm not interested in spoon feeding you. either you investigate or not. I don't care

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Deep state is a silly fiction...
    Call it or don't call it what you want. I think a political civil war is appropriate.
    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Why did Powers deny she did un-masking request, and there are hundreds in her name -more and more between election and inauguration..etc etc.
    One example of many. Makes the Plame affair look like kids playing in a sandbox.
    Somebody's going to make a hell of a book/movie/documentary when this is played out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    WTF do you think you gotta do when your trying to get a look at classified procedures?
    You understand them as best you can,look at the players, and their actions.
    You look at any manipulations -who does it serve,and you draw conclusions.
    Then look for confirming patterns

    If you were interested, you'd do this, but you's rather rag on "RW conspirators".'The same thing you guys always do. I'm not interested in spoon feeding you. either you investigate or not. I don't care
    Because its a lie

    there are no DOTS to connect

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Because its a lie

    there are no DOTS to connect
    your brain is disconnected dots

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloysious View Post
    Call it or don't call it whar you want. I think a political civil war is appropriate.

    One example of many. Makes the Plame affair look like kids playing in a sandbox.
    Somebody's going to make a hell of a book/movie/documentary when this is played out.
    it will be labeled

    how the republican party committed suicide

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    your brain is disconnected dots
    You only connect the dots you want to connect. Comey's letter (which changed the course of history) is something you take out of the equation, as are numerous other actions and behaviors which completely contradict any sort of organized pattern or strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    WTF do you think you gotta do when your trying to get a look at classified procedures?
    You understand them as best you can,look at the players, and their actions.
    You look at any manipulations -who does it serve,and you draw conclusions.
    Then look for confirming patterns

    If you were interested, you'd do this, but you's rather rag on "RW conspirators".'The same thing you guys always do. I'm not interested in spoon feeding you. either you investigate or not. I don't care
    I imagine Mueller is doing exactly that but isn't sharing what he is finding so some on here are assuming he hasn't found anything. In this instance some of you need to be spoon fed or it's all a conspiracy.

    Hypocrisy is an ugly thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    your brain is disconnected dots
    petty insults wont change the facts


    when this is over you will change your name and come back as someone else


    I will still be evince and still be proud of my predictions being correct


    annie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    You only connect the dots you want to connect. Comey's letter (which changed the course of history) is something you take out of the equation, as are numerous other actions and behaviors which completely contradict any sort of organized pattern or strategy.
    Comeys letter had nothing to do with intelligence.I see you still cling to that meme is why she lost. good for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloysious View Post
    Call it or don't call it whar you want. I think a political civil war is appropriate.

    One example of many. Makes the Plame affair look like kids playing in a sandbox.
    Somebody's going to make a hell of a book/movie/documentary when this is played out.
    Powers was ambassador to the UN...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha68 View Post
    I imagine Mueller is doing exactly that but isn't sharing what he is finding so some on here are assuming he hasn't found anything. In this instance some of you need to be spoon fed or it's all a conspiracy.

    Hypocrisy is an ugly thing.
    we have feedback from Mueller and Rosenstein that Trump is not a target.
    WTF does this have to do wit the Deep State?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Comeys letter had nothing to do with intelligence.I see you still cling to that meme is why she lost. good for you
    There were a ton of reasons Hillary lost - she was a weak candidate who ran a terrible campaign.

    Yet w/ all of that, she still would have won w/out that letter consuming the final week of the campaign. That is undeniable.

    Comey's letter has everything to do w/ any kind of lunatic conspiracy theory about a "deep state" that has an agenda.

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