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    Quote Originally Posted by Mason View Post
    How lame is this silly thread!lol
    Well, it does serve to illustrate the depths of the crazy among some of our friends on the Right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvilleherb View Post
    Don't forget about what Bill Clinton did at Ruby Ridge.
    that was actually GHW Bush
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    First thing we do, kill all the Texans- Shakespeare
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Do you really believe that? You gun people are nuts. Truth is guns mean everything to you. the left spends little thought on guns. We wish they were gone, but we are used to you guys playing cowboy . Guns are not going any where. that time has passed. I would like to have registration, stopping crazies from getting them and no bump stocks. But if that does not happen, it would be just like it is now. lots of innocent people will die so you can play cowboy. Sad that mechanical device is your reason to live. But it is not ours.
    the problem with this is it's mostly lies. the left spends alot of thought on guns, just wanting only the government to have them. Given an inexpensive choice, you'd happily remove them from all civilian hands and be happy that only government has them. See, the left AND the right love their government power so that they can have it used against their perceived political enemies. This is why you have to maintain the whole gun nut theory and anti government paranoia crap.

    One has to wonder though, what was it that caused you on the left to have so much more faith in government over the people, that you'd give away your rights and freedoms to government with the faith that government would still be a benevolent servant instead of a cruel master?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Well, it does serve to illustrate the depths of the crazy among some of our friends on the Right.
    it also serves to illustrate the absolute idolatry of government force, be it lawful or unlawful, just so long as it's used against those on the right.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    the problem with this is it's mostly lies. the left spends alot of thought on guns, just wanting only the government to have them. Given an inexpensive choice, you'd happily remove them from all civilian hands and be happy that only government has them. See, the left AND the right love their government power so that they can have it used against their perceived political enemies. This is why you have to maintain the whole gun nut theory and anti government paranoia crap.

    One has to wonder though, what was it that caused you on the left to have so much more faith in government over the people, that you'd give away your rights and freedoms to government with the faith that government would still be a benevolent servant instead of a cruel master?
    Not sure what "lefties" you argue with but I have met very few who want all guns removed. Barely a blip on the radar. The rest just want to be safe with the amount of guns we already have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha68 View Post
    Not sure what "lefties" you argue with but I have met very few who want all guns removed. Barely a blip on the radar. The rest just want to be safe with the amount of guns we already have.
    95% of the lefties i've dealt with are comfortable with the guns THEY have, but want mine gone. sure, the occasional ones don't mind if I have a single shot .22 or shot gun, maybe a .38 revolver, but that's the extent of their desire for anyone but a leftie to have guns. they don't trust the right and they damn sure don't trust veteran Libertarians. we're just too 'dangerous' for them. it's all about kowtowing to government power, which is what all lefties want.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    95% of the lefties i've dealt with are comfortable with the guns THEY have, but want mine gone. sure, the occasional ones don't mind if I have a single shot .22 or shot gun, maybe a .38 revolver, but that's the extent of their desire for anyone but a leftie to have guns. they don't trust the right and they damn sure don't trust veteran Libertarians. we're just too 'dangerous' for them. it's all about kowtowing to government power, which is what all lefties want.
    I doubt you engage coherently with 95% of anything. Maybe they want YOUR guns because you clearly display a warped view of the world and people who do that shouldn't have guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha68 View Post
    I doubt you engage coherently with 95% of anything. Maybe they want YOUR guns because you clearly display a warped view of the world and people who do that shouldn't have guns.
    sure, 95% of the people out there, including you, are more comfortable with government having power over the people than the people having power over the government. it's why you're a slave to the state, though you don't care to realize it. Freedom and Liberty require responsibility, something 95% of the people, including you most likely, don't want to deal with.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Do you really believe that? You gun people are nuts. Truth is guns mean everything to you. the left spends little thought on guns. We wish they were gone, but we are used to you guys playing cowboy . Guns are not going any where. that time has passed. I would like to have registration, stopping crazies from getting them and no bump stocks. But if that does not happen, it would be just like it is now. lots of innocent people will die so you can play cowboy. Sad that mechanical device is your reason to live. But it is not ours.
    And yet you never complain about cars even though americans do far far more killing with cars than guns and even though car violence is much easier to stop than gun violence. A little thing like lowering speed limits back to 55 would save 5,000 lives every year tens of billions of dollars but libs say leave cars alone!!!
    Reckless drivers are a bigger threat to you than all other criminals put together!

    THE BIG LIE - Blacks and whites are different physically but identical mentally!

    There is no way 81 million americans voted for a man they know is a child molester w dementia. Impeach Joe the Pedophile Vegetable (JPV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaldvoTrumpovich View Post
    It's lame because it's a big fat lie, but then that's all the radicalized racist right wing nut jobs have.

    They also believe President Obama had Justice Scalia killed, Hillary Clinton is a lesbian, Michelle Obama is a man and Donald Trump is a kind, compassionate, lucid human being.
    Everybody including you knows michelle is a tranny. How many women are 6 feet tall and 180 pounds and not fat?? THINK
    Reckless drivers are a bigger threat to you than all other criminals put together!

    THE BIG LIE - Blacks and whites are different physically but identical mentally!

    There is no way 81 million americans voted for a man they know is a child molester w dementia. Impeach Joe the Pedophile Vegetable (JPV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    Everybody including you knows michelle is a tranny. How many women are 6 feet tall and 180 pounds and not fat?? THINK
    Why are you insisting on this "fact"? How does it change anything, affect anything, prove anything in your vacant mind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    the problem with this is it's mostly lies. the left spends alot of thought on guns, just wanting only the government to have them. Given an inexpensive choice, you'd happily remove them from all civilian hands and be happy that only government has them. See, the left AND the right love their government power so that they can have it used against their perceived political enemies. This is why you have to maintain the whole gun nut theory and anti government paranoia crap.

    One has to wonder though, what was it that caused you on the left to have so much more faith in government over the people, that you'd give away your rights and freedoms to government with the faith that government would still be a benevolent servant instead of a cruel master?
    Ever hear of courts? How about the power of the public opinion that can be wielded by the government. Trump uses that regularly. Now we have tweets.

    Yes we wish Americans were not gun crazy. We wish guns were not everywhere.But try and understand. We have reluctantly accepted that guns will be part of the American culture. You gun babies keep crying that someone it taking them away. When has that happened? But you guys cry and cry about the need to protect your manhood weapons. They are safe and your constant bleating is annoying as hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Ever hear of courts? How about the power of the public opinion that can be wielded by the government. Trump uses that regularly. Now we have tweets.

    Yes we wish Americans were not gun crazy. We wish guns were not everywhere.But try and understand. We have reluctantly accepted that guns will be part of the American culture. You gun babies keep crying that someone it taking them away. When has that happened? But you guys cry and cry about the need to protect your manhood weapons. They are safe and your constant bleating is annoying as hell.
    try new orleans after katrina, try california after the roberti-roos act, try a registration requirement in connecticutt (which was largely ignored), try deerfield illinois where the chief has orders to confiscate. you must accept that firearms will ALWAYS be the reason why we have a United States of America and no amount of whittling away at our non-negotiable rights will take them because we will fight back. it will be bloody and you will finally be considered domestic enemies of the constitution.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    And yet you never complain about cars even though americans do far far more killing with cars than guns and even though car violence is much easier to stop than gun violence. A little thing like lowering speed limits back to 55 would save 5,000 lives every year tens of billions of dollars but libs say leave cars alone!!!
    Do you always bring the stupid to every thread? What is wrong with you? Is logic that hard for you? You do not know enough to feel embarrassed.

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