the orange man flip flop

[Gotcha68]

You're wrong as usual and Trump is a huge flip flopper. I'm just curious why Taichiliberal doesn't have a problem with Obama's flip flops.

Are Obama's flip flops good or bad, in your opinion?

Give us all an issue President Obama flip flopped on and I will tell you my opinion.

[Nomad]

Of course, it is only bad if a republican does it....

No, everybody does it to one extent or another. It's impossible to go through life without ever changing one's position on something once in awhile. Especially people in politics.

The issue is how frequently one does it and how genuine they are. Like I said, Trump will flip and flop back and forth on an issue in the space of one speech or interview just to curry favor or avoid addressing an issue. He lies with an ease and lack of conscious effort with which most people breathe.

The level at which he says things that cannot be trusted because of his past track record is beyond anything anyone has ever seen before.

The sad thing here, is that you know damned well it's true, but you refuse to admit it.

[Cancel 2018.1]

Give us all an issue President Obama flip flopped on and I will tell you my opinion.

Is the Lie of the Decade considered a flip flop?
Or how about the that line in the sand? Do you consider that a flip flop?
Not that I blame him. They all lie and flip flop. I probably would too if it had that job (wouldn't want it. doesn't pay enuf)

[Gotcha68]

Is the Lie of the Decade considered a flip flop?
Or how about the that line in the sand? Do you consider that a flip flop?
Not that I blame him. They all lie and flip flop. I probably would too if it had that job (wouldn't want it. doesn't pay enuf)

You are misunderstanding flip flopping. To take a stand and then flip it is not the same as taking a stand, flipping it, then flopping back to the original stand. President Obama flipped on several issues but never flopped.

Being wrong about something at some later date (and often with incomplete information) is not the same as flipping...or flopping...on it.

[Cancel 2018.1]

You are misunderstanding flip flopping. To take a stand and then flip it is not the same as taking a stand, flipping it, then flopping back to the original stand. President Obama flipped on several issues but never flopped.

Being wrong about something at some later date (and often with incomplete information) is not the same as flipping...or flopping...on it.

Ae you OK?

[Gotcha68]

Ae you OK?

So your tactic is to make this a personal issue rather than a discussion?

Go for it. Might work. Who knows.

[Cancel 2018.1]

So your tactic is to make this a personal issue rather than a discussion?

Go for it. Might work. Who knows.

Not at all. This makes zero sense.

You are misunderstanding flip flopping. To take a stand and then flip it is not the same as taking a stand, flipping it, then flopping back to the original stand. President Obama flipped on several issues but never flopped.

Being wrong about something at some later date (and often with incomplete information) is not the same as flipping...or flopping...on it.

Maybe one of your comrades can interpret.

[rjhenn]

So changing ones stance is duplicitous?

You thought so with Obama.

[rjhenn]

A booming economy and dictators abroad who blink first, makes a great leader lol.

Why anyone cares about the rest is beyond me.

The economy is slowing under Trump.

[rjhenn]

So it is OK for Obama to flip flop, but not Trump.

Hack

So it was bad for Obama to flipflop, but OK for Trump?

[Cancel 2018.2]

Give us all an issue President Obama flip flopped on and I will tell you my opinion.

Gay marriage.

[Gotcha68]

Gay marriage.

True. He flipped his opinion about gay marriage from being against it to being for it. Nothing wrong with that. Now if he were to flop back to being against it again then you can refer to him as a flip flopper but he hasn't so you can't use this example.

Next?

[Cancel 2020.1]

Trump has no core - no values or morality, or principles.

Trump is just about Trump.

[Cancel 2018.2]

No, everybody does it to one extent or another. It's impossible to go through life without ever changing one's position on something once in awhile. Especially people in politics.

The issue is how frequently one does it and how genuine they are. Like I said, Trump will flip and flop back and forth on an issue in the space of one speech or interview just to curry favor or avoid addressing an issue. He lies with an ease and lack of conscious effort with which most people breathe.

The level at which he says things that cannot be trusted because of his past track record is beyond anything anyone has ever seen before.

The sad thing here, is that you know damned well it's true, but you refuse to admit it.

But that isn't what the OP said. It amazes me the lengths you guys go to in order to defend your massive hypocrisy.

[Cancel 2018.2]

You are misunderstanding flip flopping. To take a stand and then flip it is not the same as taking a stand, flipping it, then flopping back to the original stand. President Obama flipped on several issues but never flopped.

Being wrong about something at some later date (and often with incomplete information) is not the same as flipping...or flopping...on it.

Nice try :

flip-flop
ˈflip fläp/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: flip-flopping
1.
move with a flapping sound or motion.
"she flip-flopped off the porch in battered sneakers"
2.
NORTH AMERICANinformal
***make an abrupt reversal of policy***.
"the candidate flip-flopped on a number of issues"