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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    I don't know how you deduce that on the basis of the Russians apparently having an antidote to an American military poison.
    I'll give you a clue.

    The Russian military used BZ in the Moscow theater siege in 2002, intending to incapacitate the terrorists. But they overdid it, and then they wouldn't tell the doctors which nerve agent they had used.

    They provided a BZ antidote eventually. About 100 hostages died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    I'll give you a clue.

    The Russian military used BZ in the Moscow theater siege in 2002, intending to incapacitate the terrorists. But they overdid it, and then they wouldn't tell the doctors which nerve agent they had used.

    They provided a BZ antidote eventually. About 100 hostages died.
    Nah. This is Russophobic mud-slinging. You say they used a 'BZ ' antidote not 'BZ' and your claim that they ' wouldn't tell the doctors ' is rather silly in its portrayal of the Western ' Russian monster ' model.

    The antidote being used is for the group of nerve agents related to the gas BZ, developed by the US military in the 1970s.
    A type. Again- no definitive proof of anything whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Nah. This is Russophobic mud-slinging. You say they used a 'BZ ' antidote not 'BZ' and your claim that they ' wouldn't tell the doctors ' is rather silly in its portrayal of the Western ' Russian monster ' model.



    A type. Again- no definitive proof of anything whatsoever.
    Amen!

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    You're a troll. maggot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    You're a troll. maggot.


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    So you enjoy trolling. Next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    So you enjoy trolling. Next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    This is Russophobic mud-slinging. You say they used a 'BZ ' antidote not 'BZ' and your claim that they ' wouldn't tell the doctors ' is rather silly in its portrayal of the Western ' Russian monster ' model.

    The Russian authorities refused to say what gas was used in the Moscow theater siege. But some of the Russian media reported that it was Kolokol (not a BZ agent).

    You could go with that! You believe the Russian media, don't you? So they used Kolokol and, according to the Guardian article, applied a BZ antidote. Makes perfect sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    Something fishy about this, moony. The OPCW never discloses which particular lab(s) were used in the testing, so how does Lavrov know so much about it?

    And what does this mean: "The UN chemical watchdog limited itself only to confirming the formula of the substance ... without mentioning anything about the other facts presented in the Swiss document." The other facts being, presumably, that although it was the same formula, it was a different substance. What?

    We need to know more. So far this looks like yet more Russian disinformation.
    He's citing R.T.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    The Russian authorities refused to say what gas was used in the Moscow theater siege. But some of the Russian media reported that it was Kolokol (not a BZ agent).

    You could go with that! You believe the Russian media, don't you? So they used Kolokol and, according to the Guardian article, applied a BZ antidote. Makes perfect sense.
    All this speculation goes precisely nowhere. We are never going to know the truth of who used what, when or how. We are fed propaganda by the interested parties and ' patriots' believe what they are conditioned to believe.
    The solution is the correct application of international law- and the interested parties will resist that to the death. Ours in all likelihood.
    They get away with it because we fail to take them to task. Your UK premier, as a case in point, has acted illegally alongside Macron and Mr. Tangerine Man by by-passing the UN. Her shysters- and their droogs- will claim that she didn't and maggots like maggot will rally to whitewash the illegal. Maybe you will too- we'll see tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    He's citing R.T.
    Which is- demonstrably- an excellent source of Western -propaganda-free news.
    That's why Washington wants it shut down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    All this speculation goes precisely nowhere. We are never going to know the truth of who used what, when or how. We are fed propaganda by the interested parties and ' patriots' believe what they are conditioned to believe.
    The solution is the correct application of international law- and the interested parties will resist that to the death. Ours in all likelihood.
    They get away with it because we fail to take them to task. Your UK premier, as a case in point, has acted illegally alongside Macron and Mr. Tangerine Man by by-passing the UN. Her shysters- and their droogs- will claim that she didn't and maggots like maggot will rally to whitewash the illegal. Maybe you will too- we'll see tomorrow.
    Fuck you, the Russians are always going to veto as you well know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    Which is- demonstrably- an excellent source of Western -propaganda-free news.
    This cunt must be being paid by Press TV or RT.


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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...stand-for.html

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    You've been trolling for the ' Daily Mail ' for years, maggot.

    You'd be an idiot to think that anybody will take your propaganda tirades seriously . Oh, wait...........
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