Swiss state lab; Salisbury toxin not Russian. Was in UK service.

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Lavrov: Swiss lab says ‘BZ toxin’ used in Salisbury, not produced in Russia, was in US & UK service

The substance used on Sergei Skripal was an agent called BZ, according to Swiss state Spiez lab, the Russian foreign minister said. The toxin was never produced in Russia, but was in service in the US, UK, and other NATO states.
Sergei Skripal, a former Russian double agent, and his daughter Yulia were poisoned with an incapacitating toxin known as 3-Quinuclidinyl benzilate or BZ, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said, citing the results of the examination conducted by a Swiss chemical lab that worked with the samples that London handed over to the Organisation for the Prohibition of the Chemical Weapons (OPCW).


The Swiss center sent the results to the OPCW. However, the UN chemical watchdog limited itself only to confirming the formula of the substance used to poison the Skripals in its final report without mentioning anything about the other facts presented in the Swiss document, the Russian foreign minister added. He went on to say that Moscow would ask the OPCW about its decision to not include any other information provided by the Swiss in its report.

https://www.rt.com/news/424149-skrip...ing-bz-lavrov/

No doubt there will be know-nothing JPP morons adhering to the British narrative even though they don't have the faintest idea of the facts.

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No doubt there will be know-nothing JPP morons ...

Something fishy about this, moony. The OPCW never discloses which particular lab(s) were used in the testing, so how does Lavrov know so much about it?

And what does this mean: "The UN chemical watchdog limited itself only to confirming the formula of the substance ... without mentioning anything about the other facts presented in the Swiss document." The other facts being, presumably, that although it was the same formula, it was a different substance. What?

We need to know more. So far this looks like yet more Russian disinformation.

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No doubt there will be know-nothing JPP morons adhering to the British narrative even though they don't have the faintest idea of the facts.

Russo-bot scum bag.

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Something fishy about this, moony. The OPCW never discloses which particular lab(s) were used in the testing, so how does Lavrov know so much about it?

And what does this mean: "The UN chemical watchdog limited itself only to confirming the formula of the substance ... without mentioning anything about the other facts presented in the Swiss document." The other facts being, presumably, that although it was the same formula, it was a different substance. What?

We need to know more. So far this looks like yet more Russian disinformation.

You're quite right. Knowing more is absolutely essential before making non-retractable accusations about anything in this saga.
Of course, that goes for Salisbury and Syria .

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Russo-bot scum bag.

Prosemitic poo-pusher.

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Making the first defence of this claim since Porton Down scientists said they could only describe the agent as novichok, but not ascertain its country of origin, Johnson implied he had never said Porton Down told him Russia was responsible.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-novichok-case

Oooh- a lying Brit asshole. How novel.

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Something fishy about this, moony. The OPCW never discloses which particular lab(s) were used in the testing, so how does Lavrov know so much about it?

And what does this mean: "The UN chemical watchdog limited itself only to confirming the formula of the substance ... without mentioning anything about the other facts presented in the Swiss document." The other facts being, presumably, that although it was the same formula, it was a different substance. What?

We need to know more. So far this looks like yet more Russian disinformation.

His source is rt

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Maybe spyboy staged the assassination attempt to draw so much publicity that Russia couldn't turn around an assassinate him without being caught.

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His source is rt

Russian foreign minister Lavrov made this claim yesterday, and a lot of people online are taking it as gospel - Lavrov being such a truthful fellow, I guess.

The OPCW hasn't commented. It's highly unlikely that they would misrepresent or suppress information. If they did, it would be a major international scandal.

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Russian foreign minister Lavrov made this claim yesterday, and a lot of people online are taking it as gospel - Lavrov being such a truthful fellow, I guess.

The OPCW hasn't commented. It's highly unlikely that they would misrepresent or suppress information. If they did, it would be a major international scandal.

' Novichook ' is a term for a wide range of agents, we are told. Clearly, the formula for each would be different.
There would be no contradiction between statements from various OPCW labs identifying different compounds of the same group.
Ask maggot. He's got a chemistry set.

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The substance used on Sergei Skripal was an agent called BZ, according to Swiss state Spiez lab, the Russian foreign minister said. The toxin was never produced in Russia, but was in service in the US, UK, and other NATO states.

The crucial point here is that according to Lavrov the Russians never had BZ.

I found this:

Hostages given military's nerve gas antidote

28 Oct 2002
Russian doctors treating hostages for the inhalation of the gas deployed during the Moscow theatre siege are using an antidote supplied by the Russian military for a rare form of nerve agent developed in the 1970s, according to chemical warfare experts ...

The antidote being used is for the group of nerve agents related to the gas BZ, developed by the US military in the 1970s.

Read more:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...rdnortontaylor

Either the Moscow theater hostages were gassed by the US, or the Russians had BZ nerve agent 15+ years ago.

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Something fishy about this, moony. The OPCW never discloses which particular lab(s) were used in the testing, so how does Lavrov know so much about it?

And what does this mean: "The UN chemical watchdog limited itself only to confirming the formula of the substance ... without mentioning anything about the other facts presented in the Swiss document." The other facts being, presumably, that although it was the same formula, it was a different substance. What?

We need to know more. So far this looks like yet more Russian disinformation.

Moontwat will buy any old shit as long as it emanates from Russia, truly despicable cunt.

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The crucial point here is that according to Lavrov the Russians never had BZ.

I found this:

Hostages given military's nerve gas antidote

28 Oct 2002
Russian doctors treating hostages for the inhalation of the gas deployed during the Moscow theatre siege are using an antidote supplied by the Russian military for a rare form of nerve agent developed in the 1970s, according to chemical warfare experts ...

The antidote being used is for the group of nerve agents related to the gas BZ, developed by the US military in the 1970s.

Read more:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...rdnortontaylor

Either the Moscow theater hostages were gassed by the US, or the Russians had BZ nerve agent 15+ years ago.

I don't know how you deduce that on the basis of the Russians apparently having an antidote to an American military poison.

Ask scab maggot. He's got a chemistry set.

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His source is rt

This ass gets most of his news from the either Al Jazeera or Russian TV....they tell him exactly what he wants to hear and what he wants to believe....laughable....

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This ass gets most of his news from the either Al Jazeera or Russian TV....they tell him exactly what he wants to hear and what he wants to believe....laughable....

This ' NOVA ' rat claims to be a navy vet- yet pisses on the memories of the US crew of the Liberty- murdered by Israelis. He thinks that payment in shekels absolves them.