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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    Perhaps because atheists are the only ones who can look at it objectively. Believers always project their beliefs onto whatever is being discussed. Eisegesis. Only non-believers can deal in exogesis.
    Non-believers can't look at a religious text objectively when view it in a secular manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    All he ever has is non-answers. Best to put him on your ignore list.
    An answer you don't like isn't a non-answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    If you exclude suicides, it's closer to the 14K. And no amount of gun control is going to reduce that. In fact, increased gun control might even make it worse. As for suicides, again, there's Japan.
    Why do gun nuts always wish to exclude suicides? Convenience. They are a gun death, no matter how you wish to spin it. Yeah, and easy access to guns makes suicides much more efficient, no “might” about it.

    Japan and their cultural suicides is irrelevant and diversionary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Why do gun nuts always wish to exclude suicides? Convenience. They are a gun death, no matter how you wish to spin it. Yeah, and easy access to guns makes suicides much more efficient, no “might” about it.

    Japan and their cultural suicides is irrelevant and diversionary.
    Unless you can prove the person wouldn't have done it if a gun had been unavailable, you can't count them. How about you ask all those that were successful in their desire to die and get back to me with their answers.

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    It's getting close. Trump better get off his ass and start causing it.
    He wouldn't want to disappoint his base.

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    The thought of all those Christian Zionists lining up for their 72 New York hookers is comforting.
    " First they came for the journalists...
    We don't know what happened after that . "

    Maria Ressa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    The LORD says to my Lord:
    "Sit at my right hand,
    until I make your enemies your footstool."
    Psalm 110:1

    David knew that the Messiah would come through his line. The Jews knew it.


    Joseph was descended from the line of David (tribe of Judah).
    Mary was descended from the line of David (tribe of Judah).

    When Joseph, who was descended from David, married Mary, this constituted his legal adoption of the son she would bear. The language of Matthew’s genealogy reflects this legal understanding: "Joseph, the husband of Mary . . . the mother of Jesus."

    So Jesus was the son of Joseph in the full legal sense, because he was adopted when Joseph married Mary, and thus Jesus is also considered to be a legal descendant of David. When Mary married Joseph her household became part of the House of David.

    The Jews kept fastidious genealogical records and they were a matter of public record. Remember that Joseph and Mary went to Bethlehem to be taxed because that was the city of David.

    The grandfathers are easy. There are 2 genealogies, one maternal, one paternal. Hence, Heli (ELI) from Mary and Jacob from Joseph.

    Jesus had the right to the throne by way of the father (Joseph), even by adoption.
    Jesus had the blood of David in his veins because of His mother (Mary).
    So either way, He is a descendant of David.
    He is King legally through Joseph. He is King naturally through Mary. The credentials are clear, they are detailed and they are irrefutable.
    Nope.. Jesus GGG grandmother was a Moabitess. Look at what scripture says about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    Don't fret...you all have until at least 2026....There are prerequisites that must come first, and those just haven't taken place...So...not April 23, or any time soon, actually.
    There are no more prerequisites needed for the Rapture to occur. After that of course there are many events which will transpire prior to Christ's 2nd coming.

    There is one main event that must happen prior to the 2nd coming of Christ at the end of the 7yr Tribulation...the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem. More precisely the 3rd Temple.
    For those who think Christ's 2nd coming and end times have already occurred simply because the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD, they are incorrect. Architectural plans for the third Temple exist most notably in chapters 40-47 of the Book of Ezekiel (Ezekiel's vision pre-dates the Second Temple)

    The thing here is that first the Antichrist must arrive on the scene. He will be the one "authorizing" and getting the 3rd Temple reconstruction going. He will be deceiving the world making them think he is on the side of Israel and wants the Temple built for them. Naturally this won't be readily apparent until half way through the 7yr Tribulation. But, he's often identified as the political leader of a trans-national alliance similar to the European Union or the United Nations and will secure a peace treaty between the modern nation of Israel and its neighbors following a global war. The Antichrist later uses the Temple as a venue for proclaiming himself as God and the long-awaited Messiah, demanding worship from humanity.

    So, all of this would be occurring after the Rapture during the 7 years of the Great Tribulation.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Nope.. Jesus GGG grandmother was a Moabitess. Look at what scripture says about that.
    You don't understand God’s grace. Ruth had forsaken her people and her gods and had unconditionally clung to the Lord and His people (Ruth 2:16,17). Once Ruth turned to the Lord, He graciously received her, forgave her past and removed the curse that had hung over her. Not only did the Lord accept her, but He included her and used her as though she had always been an Israelite. It was as though her past and ancestry did not exist.

    Here's kind of a brief timeline:
    Naomi fled from the famine in Judah to live in Moab with her husband and two sons. Her two sons eventually married Moabite wives including Ruth. Naomi’s husband and sons eventually died and she decided to return to her homeland.

    Ruth clung onto her with a pledge that 'your people will be my people and your God will be my God.' (Ruth 1:16).
    Though she was a Moabite, Ruth was acquired/purchased by Boaz, the guardian/kinsman redeemer of Naomi’s family (Ruth 4:9-10). Scripture says, "the Lord enabled her to conceive, and she gave birth to a son" Obed, who was David’s grandfather.

    In a short genealogy of David (Ruth 4:21-22), Boaz is listed as the father of Obed, the father of Jesse, the father of David. This was in line with Jewish culture where children are the offspring of their fathers and not their mother. Throughout history, Jewish men married or produced children from captive or slave non-Jewish women and the offspring became Jewish because of their fathers. So technically, Obed, the grandfather of David, was the son of Boaz and not Ruth.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    It's getting close. Trump better get off his ass and start causing it.
    He wouldn't want to disappoint his base.
    Maybe God wants Trump to move us closer to Armageddon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    There are no more prerequisites needed for the Rapture to occur. After that of course there are many events which will transpire prior to Christ's 2nd coming.

    There is one main event that must happen prior to the 2nd coming of Christ at the end of the 7yr Tribulation...the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem. More precisely the 3rd Temple.
    For those who think Christ's 2nd coming and end times have already occurred simply because the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD, they are incorrect. Architectural plans for the third Temple exist most notably in chapters 40-47 of the Book of Ezekiel (Ezekiel's vision pre-dates the Second Temple)

    The thing here is that first the Antichrist must arrive on the scene. He will be the one "authorizing" and getting the 3rd Temple reconstruction going. He will be deceiving the world making them think he is on the side of Israel and wants the Temple built for them. Naturally this won't be readily apparent until half way through the 7yr Tribulation. But, he's often identified as the political leader of a trans-national alliance similar to the European Union or the United Nations and will secure a peace treaty between the modern nation of Israel and its neighbors following a global war. The Antichrist later uses the Temple as a venue for proclaiming himself as God and the long-awaited Messiah, demanding worship from humanity.

    So, all of this would be occurring after the Rapture during the 7 years of the Great Tribulation.
    The book of Revelation says there will be NO temple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    You don't understand God’s grace. Ruth had forsaken her people and her gods and had unconditionally clung to the Lord and His people (Ruth 2:16,17). Once Ruth turned to the Lord, He graciously received her, forgave her past and removed the curse that had hung over her. Not only did the Lord accept her, but He included her and used her as though she had always been an Israelite. It was as though her past and ancestry did not exist.

    Here's kind of a brief timeline:
    Naomi fled from the famine in Judah to live in Moab with her husband and two sons. Her two sons eventually married Moabite wives including Ruth. Naomi’s husband and sons eventually died and she decided to return to her homeland.

    Ruth clung onto her with a pledge that 'your people will be my people and your God will be my God.' (Ruth 1:16).
    Though she was a Moabite, Ruth was acquired/purchased by Boaz, the guardian/kinsman redeemer of Naomi’s family (Ruth 4:9-10). Scripture says, "the Lord enabled her to conceive, and she gave birth to a son" Obed, who was David’s grandfather.

    In a short genealogy of David (Ruth 4:21-22), Boaz is listed as the father of Obed, the father of Jesse, the father of David. This was in line with Jewish culture where children are the offspring of their fathers and not their mother. Throughout history, Jewish men married or produced children from captive or slave non-Jewish women and the offspring became Jewish because of their fathers. So technically, Obed, the grandfather of David, was the son of Boaz and not Ruth.
    Until Ezra when Jewish came thru the mother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    The book of Revelation says there will be NO temple.
    Incorrect.

    In the 3rd Temple will be the abomination of desolation; antichrist will stand in the Temple. Revelation and other Scripture refer to it also as the Holy Place (where sacrifices were made). The place where the antichrist should be, if you prefer.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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