An honest question on assault rifles.

[domer76]

It's about parity. It's about the ability of the average citizen to meet the average soldier on almost equal terms.

Why would the average citizen need to meet the military on ANY terms?

[canceled.2021.1]

Ahh, but I am not dealing with your personal supposition and conjecture, I'm dealing with matter of facts and history regarding mass school shootings. Like it or not the AR15 (style) was the weapon of choice because the shooter found it most effective...given that's what it was designed for.

So your evaluation of my honesty is worthless. As to your question; it's an assault weapon, as described by earlier retailers, the original designer....it was part of the AWB of 1994, which I found sufficient. You can't ban all weapons, but you can put a dent in what is the closest thing to a military full auto, and thus keep it out of the hands of the potential terrorists and nut jobs.

I would argue that is is not the most effective. Those who have committed these atrocities strike me as being as ignorant about guns as you are.

They see dipshits like you make a big deal and think there is something to it

Be honest. You just think it looks scary. You have probably never even shot one

[Rune]

Are you really this fucking stupid? Comparing the Civil Rights movement to this urge to own a weapon? Guess what stupid? if there were no seats in the back of the bus (standing room only) but seats in the front during the Jim Crow/segregation days, Rosa couldn't ride and would have to wait for the next bus? Why, her money was just as good as a white persons. Get the picture, stupid?

You have a right to a weapon, but NOT military grade ones....not full automatics, and for a brief time not semi-auto assault weapons. America got along fine with the AWB....crime didn't go through the roof. Deal with it.

Don't you EVER think to get away with that stupidity again.

If you weren't such an insufferable sanctimonious fuck, maybe someone would give a fuck what you say.
To claim that military grade weapons are not afforded second amendment protection is just lying out your ass.
FYI ; you are about half as smart as you think you are.

[Rune]

Another babbling idiot who can't give a rational, honest answer to a simple question.

Another self righteous bullshit reply.

[Rune]

Not quite: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15_style_rifle

LMFAO.
Asault rifles are full auto regardless of what you wrote on wiki.

[SmarterthanYou]

Post the law that says you can purchase a full automatic rifle TODAY. I believe you are confusing ownership that predates the ban law for such. I'll wait.

read the hughes amendment. it's pretty simple. if there's anything I know about the laws the best, it's GUN laws.

As for the AR-15 and why it's so popular with clowns like you:

not sure what this has to do with ANYTHING I stated about why I prefer the AR15, but then I personally think it's your own personal fear of weapons.

[Superfreak]

Again, you just ignore what you don't like. The information provided shows the original design for the military, the civilian version is so damned versatile that it's the next best thing..so much so that retailers initially marketed it as such

and AGAIN, you fail to grasp the simple fact that it IS NOT AN ASSAULT RIFLE. Saying 'its the next best thing' is a marketing tool. It doesn't magically change the FACT that it is no different in how it fires rounds than any other semi auto rifle. It just LOOKS scarier/cooler. That doesn't alter one bit what the gun actually does.

[Superfreak]

Sorry, but your insipid stubbornness is of no concern or value:

Thanks for proving you have no clue about guns. Showing a video of an idiot modifying the AR15 with this ignorant 'crank' is fucking hilarious. First, he calls it a gat crank... fucking hilarious. Second, you can fire far faster with your finger than you can with a fucking crank like that.

Again... thanks for once again proving your ignorance.

[Eagle_Eye]

and AGAIN, you fail to grasp the simple fact that it IS NOT AN ASSAULT RIFLE. Saying 'its the next best thing' is a marketing tool. It doesn't magically change the FACT that it is no different in how it fires rounds than any other semi auto rifle. It just LOOKS scarier/cooler. That doesn't alter one bit what the gun actually does.

Haven't you figured out by now you cannot use facts when dealing with the anti-gun nut burgers. If it looks evil it must be evil plain and simple. They don't care that an AR-15 fires in the neighborhood of 45 rounds a minute where an M-16 on full automatic can fire about 600 rounds a minute.

[Controlled Opposition]

Why would the average citizen need to meet the military on ANY terms?

It's about the intent of the second amendment.

[Eagle_Eye]

It's about the intent of the second amendment.

CO
I staunchly support and defend the second amendment and every Americans right to buy any legal weapon they choose. But I must confess I don't understand this infatuation with the AR-15. As a hunting/target weapon my 30-06 is better. So other than cool looking what good is it to the average citizen? Now don't get me wrong I'm not for outlawing them I just wonder why you would want one.

[Celticguy]

So it's a better, more effective killing machine...given it's ammo capacity and higher impact ammo used?

If you're looking to kill something, sure. Unless you're looking to kill something very large or very far away.

[Controlled Opposition]

CO
I staunchly support and defend the second amendment and every Americans right to buy any legal weapon they choose. But I must confess I don't understand this infatuation with the AR-15. As a hunting/target weapon my 30-06 is better. So other than cool looking what good is it to the average citizen? Now don't get me wrong I'm not for outlawing them I just wonder why you would want one.

I don't disagree with any of that. The AR-15 has become the symbol of the anti-gun crowd. Prior to that it was the AK-47. I know you are aware that there are many manufacturers of AR-15's, making them even more affordable than AK's are. So, like you, it isn't the particular weapon, but the principles.

I had to edit (a couple of times) my reply to domer76. Remember that after the Boston Marathon bombing, the authorities used armored vehicles to go house to house, pointing those AR-15's at the citizens, forcing to leave their homes with their hands up, to perform illegal searches. All on the pretext of tracking down an unarmed teenager. So when someone like domer 76 can't imagine cops and soldiers violating their oaths, I am bemused.

Edit to add: I don't own an AR-15 and I don't want one.

[Eagle_Eye]

I don't disagree with any of that. The AR-15 has become the symbol of the anti-gun crowd. Prior to that it was the AK-47. I know you are aware that there are many manufacturers of AR-15's, making them even more affordable than AK's are. So, like you, it isn't the particular weapon, but the principles.

I had to edit (a couple of times) my reply to domer76. Remember that after the Boston Marathon bombing, the authorities used armored vehicles to go house to house, pointing those AR-15's at the citizens, forcing to leave their homes with their hands up, to perform illegal searches. All on the pretext of tracking down an unarmed teenager. So when someone like domer 76 can't imagine cops and soldiers violating their oaths, I am bemused.

That makes as much sense as anything. I have friends who have AR-15s and when I ask why they bought them they all say I've always wanted one or they are cool looking.

[domer76]

It's about the intent of the second amendment.

lol

1) To defend against a tyrannical government? or
2) To be a first line of defense in lieu of a standing army until one can be formed?

1) You watched Red Dawn too many times.
2) We already have the biggest, baddest standing army in the history of mankind.

The intent of the 2nd is an outdated vestige of the 18th century. Fast forward a couple hundred years, pally.