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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Who told you that any of that 'hurt?' It's comical.

    Maybe it's news to you in MoronLand that all of this is in response to the mass shootings by the rats who use powerful weapons to mass murder defenseless children .. and I doubt if any of those rats live in Greensboro.

    Pretty sure that those rats voted for Trump. Like you.
    I don't speak ebonics but as best as I can tell your ignorance has metastasized from your brain to your fingertips. Since Greensboro is a minority-majority city, and could very well become a black-majority city in the next census, I assume they voted for Hillary. Regardless, they have a very real problem with crime and don't need more guns on their streets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love America View Post
    I think this is someone our liberal friends would call a

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    “Uncle Tom”
    “Not a real black man”
    This is somebody who lefties wish to:

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    Quote Originally Posted by leaningright View Post
    Mott, you are certainly allowed your opinion and we are certainly allowed to disagree with one another as we often have. Let me just address a few of the things I have bolded above. (I hope in order but this format is hard for me to use, especially on an iPad.)

    The vilification of the NRA which Cypress and others try to do every time someone disagrees with their anti—semi-auto stance and the portrayal of the NRA in a negative light is a result of the Democratic party’s restrictive stance on firearms going back most recently to Bill Clinton’s “Assault” Weapon Ban. We (millions of gun owners) urged the NRA to push back against the ban. I filled out survey after survey as did millions of other NRA members making our concerns known. They do what we wanted them to do. So when ILA was formed, it supported pro-gun candidates. In Oklahoma (and other conservative states), many of those candidates were Democrats but on the national scene, not so much, if any. That, in the eyes of the news media and people like domer, Cypress, Desh, etc. made the NRA a Republican entity and deemed them deserving of vilification. If the gun rights had been supported by the left instead of the right the NRA would be as popular with them as the NEA is. Look at this table and see the balance of political contributions become unbalanced from 1990 to now. Ask yourself what has changed? The [liberal] democrats come down on the side of restricting freedom as far as guns are concerned (becoming more like our European friends) every time the discussion is brought up is what has changed since the late 80’s.



    https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/tot...e=P&cycle=2018

    As far as wanting to do anything about gun violence or having “adult” conversations about gun violence I am all for it...and so are a lot of other gun owners. But when one side starts out with [see Cypress and domer’s posts in this or any gun thread] condescension the conversation isn’t going far. When one side says we want to ban this or that at the very beginning it isn’t going far. Yes, there are nuts on the gun owner’s side too but when the first thing said is that we need to ban (Warning, NRA phrase coming up) law abiding citizens from buying x, y, or z gun, stock or magazine or bullets the gun owners are going to double down.

    The old slippery slope happens to be something that many of us gun owners believe in. All we have to do is look at other nations and see it. In many of them where they are now started with making firearm ownership very difficult for the average citizen. Restrictions grew from there. Many of us believe that the only reason such restrictions haven’t happened here is because of the pushback by gun owners beginning back in the 90’s. Are we wrong? One can’t prove what has been avoided or not been avoided.

    And we do have a high percentage of firearm ownership. Once again, many of the gun owners believe it is because of the efforts of gun owners that this is possible. Why would we want to change that?



    Here is where we agree. And there is always somewhere. This is what I want as well. The one “fact” though, that we don’t start with is the obvious one.

    I do think there are things we can do with background check to prevent the Cruz’s, Roof’s, Holmes’ and such from getting the weaponry they have. That is where I start, not start by saying to Mr. Robinson (and other gun owners), “No, you can’t have that type of weapon because it was used to murder people.”

    As for appeals to emotion, I love this man’s speech. But I’m a guy who likes to listen to sermons. I wanted to stand up and shout, “AMEN!” when I listened to this.

    And seriously, isn’t appealing to emotion exactly what lawmakers do when they introduce restrictive anti gun measures right after a tragedy?

    Gun Lesislation Dominates State Capitals After School Shooting
    http://thehill.com/homenews/state-wa...kland-shooting

    Isn’t that what the [liberally funded] march on Washington by the kids did? (I’m not opposed to them doing that either, by the way.)

    But just like those gun owners who didn’t like these kids’ appeal to emotion, many anti gunners don’t like this mans speech because he is firing up the wrong side.

    I applaud him and just wish his venue was larger.
    Well again I have often pointed out the frustrating disconnect between both sides of the gun issue. You may have noticed that my rebuttal was, unlike Cypress, not an ad hominem attack. Yes, the other side of the issue has arguments that are not rational and appeal to emotion. Just like the Feds closing down Backpage today “to protect children” the other side of the debate uses similar illogical arguments like protecting children rationalizes abridging rights of others.

    Be that as it may it wasn’t the other side of the disconnect who’s illogical appeal to emotion you posted and I stand by my observations. The arguments provided by the gentleman are illogical, not supported by the facts, as I clearly demonstrated and are counterproductive because they further the divide on this issue. I’m not convinced by these types of irrational appeals to emotion by either side of the disconnect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    I don't speak ebonics but as best as I can tell your ignorance has metastasized from your brain to your fingertips. Since Greensboro is a minority-majority city, and could very well become a black-majority city in the next census, I assume they voted for Hillary. Regardless, they have a very real problem with crime and don't need more guns on their streets.
    Who gives a fuck about what some racist asshole speaks. :0)

    I'm well aware of the makeup of the Greensboro population you ignorant buffoon .. but what does Greensboro have to do with the plethora of white male Trump supporters who use automatic weapons of war to slaughter innocent children in schools?

    If you can't address the issue, then perhaps you should just giddy-up and move your punk ass on to talk to a fellow rat.

    This nation has a very real problem with motherfuckers like you slaughtering innocent kids in schools and we don't need more guns on the streets anywhere.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

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