Oklahoma teacher protest

**rjhenn** · 04-09-2018, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman

E tu? My husband's career was spent in IT also (systems architect/software engineer). You're exactly right. He worked at the same company for 31 years; five years ago he was golden-parachuted out the door and replaced by an H1B visa guy from Indian at half the salary. The same thing happened to his colleagues who had higher degrees and who were paid the most. They kept the employees with associates degrees and who were paid much less than the masters level guys/gals.

Are you retired now?

I had a stroke and couldn't work anymore. The whole department was shortly after spun off and sold, which was in the works before I left. Most of my associates were also let go, as I would have been. It was a strange place to work anyway. A previous employer decided that all divisions were to cut costs by 10%. Mine, and a couple of others, decided to do it by letting people go. I was told, a couple of years later, that I was selected because my wife used the health insurance too much.

**cawacko** · 04-09-2018, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by rjhenn

Did Jobs make that pitch or did he have employees who did that, or who wrote the pitch for him?

Read Isaacson's book on him. It goes into all the detail. It also details his discussion with Obama and his frustration at politics holding back children from learning. Jobs was a brilliant man and one of our country's greatest entrepreneurs but even he is no match for the power of the teachers unions.

**rjhenn** · 04-09-2018, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by cawacko

1) that's not how they do it now?

Not that I ever heard when my wife was teaching. They didn't pay any attention to the improvement, just the absolute test score.

Originally Posted by cawacko

2) isn't that still "teaching to the test" we hear people complain about?

Not really. The test is supposed to measure actual achievement. If it's not doing that, then the test needs improvement.

**Gotcha68** · 04-09-2018, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by Eagle Eye

As I said twit normal people don't joke with people they don't like. You two twits thought you could pull one over on me and I shut your sorry little asses down. No it wasn't a joke it was a poorly attempted scam. And yes a scam is a lie. I am still laughing that you two can be so moronic.

It was a joke because absolutely everyone knows who the Royal Brits are you dumb ass.

Btw, Owl and I were joking with each other with that pic, NOT with you, you dumb ass.

**TOP** · 04-10-2018, 02:51 AM

Good Morning!

**ThatOwlWoman** · 04-10-2018, 05:25 AM

Originally Posted by rjhenn

I had a stroke and couldn't work anymore. The whole department was shortly after spun off and sold, which was in the works before I left. Most of my associates were also let go, as I would have been. It was a strange place to work anyway. A previous employer decided that all divisions were to cut costs by 10%. Mine, and a couple of others, decided to do it by letting people go. I was told, a couple of years later, that I was selected because my wife used the health insurance too much.

Thanks. I'm sorry for this misfortune. The days of company loyalty to good employees are well and truly gone.

**Eagle_Eye** · 04-10-2018, 06:10 AM

Originally Posted by Gotcha68

It was a joke because absolutely everyone knows who the Royal Brits are you dumb ass.

Btw, Owl and I were joking with each other with that pic, NOT with you, you dumb ass.

I love seeing you two squirm it brightens my day, please keep it up.

***leaningright*** · 04-10-2018, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by cawacko

Totally random LR but are you familiar with a book called Funny Money? I'm reading it now. It was written in 1985 I believe. It was about Penn Square Bank which was a big oil and gas loan broker in OKC in the late '70's/early '80's. They ultimately went bust but were high profile during their peak and brought a lot of attention to OKC. Anyway it's also an interesting history of your state and all the various oil wildcatters that existed. Quite a cast of characters.

I am not familiar with the book but very familiar with the time. I remember well the wealth gained and lost isn the late 70’s and throughout the 80’s. We had a saying in our family that Uncle Dave made and lost millions a time or two in the 80’s. And he was quite an eccentric character himself. He’s pretty normal now, though still on the wealthy side. I love books like that and will definitely be reading it.

**cawacko** · 04-10-2018, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by leaningright

I am not familiar with the book but very familiar with the time. I remember well the wealth gained and lost isn the late 70’s and throughout the 80’s. We had a saying in our family that Uncle Dave made and lost millions a time or two in the 80’s. And he was quite an eccentric character himself. He’s pretty normal now, though still on the wealthy side. I love books like that and will definitely be reading it.

fwiw here's the link to the book. Seems your Uncle Dave would fit well in this story.

https://www.amazon.com/Funny-Money-M.../dp/0618197273

**Mason Michaels** · 04-10-2018, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman

Thanks. I'm sorry for this misfortune. The days of company loyalty to good employees are well and truly gone.

GWTW

***leaningright*** · 04-10-2018, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by cawacko

fwiw here's the link to the book. Seems your Uncle Dave would fit well in this story.

https://www.amazon.com/Funny-Money-M.../dp/0618197273

I got it. I downloaded to my kindle app and phone. I’ve read 2 chapters (standardize test day) and will be finishing the book. Very interesting so far.

Beep Jennings - “Jennings was a registered Democrat who voted for Republican presidential candidates.”

I can relate. Hope that’s not indicative of my future. But that’s doubtful as I am only a teacher and have no desire to become an investment banker or bank owner in my 2nd career. Thanks for bringing up the book though. I’m going to enjoy it.

**cawacko** · 04-10-2018, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by leaningright

I got it. I downloaded to my kindle app and phone. I’ve read 2 chapters (standardize test day) and will be finishing the book. Very interesting so far.

Beep Jennings - “Jennings was a registered Democrat who voted for Republican presidential candidates.”

I can relate. Hope that’s not indicative of my future. But that’s doubtful as I am only a teacher and have no desire to become an investment banker or bank owner in my 2nd career. Thanks for bringing up the book though. I’m going to enjoy it.

I'm on page 110 right now. I'm assuming you grew up in OK? Would love to hear more of your feedback as you go through to see if you remember any of these events or just your thoughts on how they describe the state during that time period

***leaningright*** · 04-10-2018, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by cawacko

I'm on page 110 right now. I'm assuming you grew up in OK? Would love to hear more of your feedback as you go through to see if you remember any of these events or just your thoughts on how they describe the state during that time period

Yes sir. I’ve lived here all my life, born on an army base south of OKC. I will remember some of this but the details won’t be there like recent history because back then (I was in high school and college) if it wasn’t baseball, girls or math I didn’t pay much attention.

**cawacko** · 04-10-2018, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by leaningright

Yes sir. I’ve lived here all my life, born on an army base south of OKC. I will remember some of this but the details won’t be there like recent history because back then (I was in high school and college) if it wasn’t baseball, girls or math I didn’t pay much attention.

Hahahaha. Understandable.