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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    Matt 15

    10 Summoning the crowd, He told them, “Listen and understand: 11 It’s not what goes into the mouth that defiles a man, but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.
    12 Then the disciples came up and told Him, “Do You know that the Pharisees took offense when they heard this statement?”
    13 He replied, “Every plant that My heavenly Father didn’t plant will be uprooted. 14 Leave them alone! They are blind guides. And if the blind guide the blind, both will fall into a pit.”
    15 Then Peter replied to Him, “Explain this parable to us.”
    16 “Are even you still lacking in understanding?” He asked. 17 “Don’t you realize that whatever goes into the mouth passes into the stomach and is eliminated? 18 But what comes out of the mouth comes from the heart, and this defiles a man. 19 For from the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, sexual immoralities, thefts, false testimonies, blasphemies. 20 These are the things that defile a man, but eating with unwashed hands does not defile a man.”​

    But what comes out of the mouth comes from the heart, and this defiles a man.

    From the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adulteries,
    sexual immoralities, thefts, false testimonies, blasphemies. ...

    I don't read this as a explaination of the rules of kosher-ism NOR about vegetarian-ism!

    I do not see this NT verse as addressing vegetarianism--- it speaks of atrocities that issue forth via Commands of Leaders to the 'peons' [latin word for commoner/worker].

    I truly see that my topic of Meat Eating and Butchery is not neccessarily addressed in these NT verses ---maybe! It's a metaphor/parable about the exclusive Caste rules of the Pharisees versus un-orthodox Judism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    Buddha’s Noble truth proclaimed to all sentient beings ---that all undertakings, and life itself is a suffering process ---which gives rise to the other supplementary Noble Truth, “Ahimsa” ---which guides all Humans to preform ‘actions’ that “Avoid bad Karma” ---lest one’s future leads to ‘re-birth’ [especially lower stratum of births in all sorts of sentient bodies] ---which again gives rise to repeating all the BASIC LESSONS of DHARMA.

    If Hitler was a vegetarian ---that would be a very savvy [yet uncanny to me] way of avoiding minor token karma whilst ‘getting away with Murder’.

    Great rogues would know to avoid the small stuff ---which indeed, requires attention to details.

    Yet the Prisons around the world are occupied by 101% meat and leg and ears and guts and wings and feet eaters. IMO the choice muscles are too expensive, and sell to highest paid markets.

    Finally, Buddha’s death due to [accidently] eating meat served to him un-knowingly ---testifies to how Karma is transferred via Bodily fluids ---and thus, the lesson is clear.

    BTW, IMHO, I speculate that “goodness” can be a receptical for “Badness” [but not vise-versa] ---and, Badness is attracted to goodness in the way the old saying says:
    “Nature they say hates a vaccum” ---thus IMO, sinfullness can be absorbed by Goodness . . . but then, many times the Sin obliterates the Good.

    It is “Maintanace” that counts.

    It is easier for a Good person to ‘go bad’ than it is for a bad person to ‘go good’.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    Karma is transferred via Bodily fluids.
    Karma is transferred via Bodily fluids.
    Karma is transferred via Bodily fluids.
    Karma is transferred via Bodily fluids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    without the Label of "Vegetarian" one earns the right to be a real life defacto "Meat Eater".

    Ironically, the world "Meat" [me eat] is NOT an Onomatopoeia . . . yet Crunch & Punch & Slurp & (sort of) are Onomatopoeic.

    Is the word "Stuff" a Onomatopoeia?

    At least it is (still) illegal to "Murder" ---while OTOH,
    "Killing, to eat a quadraped, or what have you, will suffice",
    Especially when the marklet place will support and rear the 99%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    I am of the opinion that there is a strange BACK LASH when CONFRONTED about the SUBJECT called "MEAT EATING".

    I an't talking about the benifits of a Diet that "You have NO concern Nor thought out Opinion".

    Either you work for the meat industry ---thus your meager livelyhood is dependent on hawking 'The MEEK' as foodstuffs.

    Militant vegans? How else do you expect Social issues come to the forefront unless "Trust account Babies" have the free time to Protest aginst the Common labor classes?

    Anyone that complains about "Militant vegans" DOES NOT Have a life ---but they do find the time to protect their interests.

    MEAT EATING CAUSES WARS! is an issue of sublime reasoning.

    One doesn't seek sublime thought from the Masses!
    One hawks their ware to the masses!

    MEAT EATING CAUSES WARS! is an ancient issue!

    If you dismiss it ---you're involved with greater struggles already with no time to consider the nature of the Sublime.

    If you want "Your Opinion to Win" ---good news "You have won".

    I am the Underdog in this Thread.

    I am the loser in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    BTW, any Woman who cares to keep her feminine beauty MUST avoid cadaver byproducts.

    Any Parent [or school Teacher] who cares to keep their teens form being sex-maniacs MUST avoid cadaver byproducts.

    Any Warden who cares to keep their inmates calm MUST avoid cadaver byproducts.

    Any Governer who cares to avoid Mass-Bad Karma MUST avoid cadaver byproducts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    This Topic is something most folks HAVE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT [except as a fad].

    Ironically, your doctors and business places are sustained daily by avoiding Bad Karma.

    I am directly & explicitly highlighting that So-called SANE people of the world would disagree with me!
    And thus, here I AM TALKING ABOUT how the world is insane and UN-AWARE of this factor that brings War upon the people.

    It is NOT my OPINION nor MY Speculation.

    It is a sublime truth of life that I am referring to.

    I learnt it from the Sages.

    Does anyone here able to recognise a sage?

    MEAT EATING CAUSES WARS ---is a fact of life that is taught by the sages.

    War is Not a past time of Sages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    But I am NOT a PETA like activist.

    I have stated above the REAL REASONS for Shunning Meat Eating.

    The issue at hand is NOT about anything social conventions and habits nor even the environment nor ethics nor even health.

    It's about WORLD CLASS BAD KARMA FOR ALL.

    The topic is about the metaphysics behind the curtain of MASS BAD KARMA.

    Maybe I should have titled the Thread:

    MASS BAD KARMA ---and everything about but was too clueless to ask.

    I thought everyone was clueless about this fact of socio-metaphysics.

    But there seems to be a sub-conscious acknowledgement of an endemic problem that apparently is difficult to admit to.

    This is not a Pet project of mine. It is an alarm bell of a topic.

    Maybe it just that I am preaching to the blase world.

    It is about the indifference.

    It is Not about my prancing about with a bone to pick ---I am Yelling FIRE!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    Should I have said?:

    MEAT EATING CAUSES SOCIETAL BAD-KARMA [up until the point of worst senario status]

    Should I have said?:

    MEAT EATING IS THE PRE-REQUISITE FOR SOCIETAL BAD-KARMA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    "Meat Eating" makes people "Horney" aka "Randy" aka "sexually agitated".
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    Attention Roman Catholic Priests and Nuns and Bishops and Cardinals and Monsignors and lay folk ---Stop eating Meat ---Meat eaters CANNOT keep Constant!

    Celebates CANNOT stay Celebate if they eat meat(s).

    "I told you Not to feed the boy meat; but Porridge"
    ---from the novel, 'Oliver Twist'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    Meat-eating is "Tamasic" [tama guna related] ---thus, anti-Brahmacarya.

    Brahmacarya = Celibate Student.

    All things related to the Protocols of Brahmacarya-ism will support vegetarian-ism.

    BTW, abstaining from Garlic, onions, vinegar help too.

    Let me repeat the "Standard of Measurement":
    MEAT EATERS CANNOT KEEP CELIBATE.

    OTOH, A vegetarian is seduced by ALL the Other Allurements into the bargain,
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    "Karma is Transmitted by Bodily Fluids".
    This is not simply an effort at wit ---it is a Truth and it also is the Plain Logic of how 'Karma' is transmitted via consumption.

    Do You Agree: "Karma is Transmitted by Bodily Fluids"?

    Being an 'accessory to a crime' is usually pointed out by the prosecuting team ---it is usually ignored by the perpetrators themselves.

    Gita 2.62-63:
    "While contemplating the objects of the senses, a person develops attachment for them, and from such attachment lust develops, and from lust anger arises.

    From anger, complete delusion arises, and from delusion bewilderment of memory. When memory is bewildered, intelligence is lost, and when intelligence is lost one falls down again into the material pool."

    In addition to 'Instant' karmic reactions to meat eating ---there are long term waits before karmic strikes. It's the desires that get inflamed/induced and raises hopes/desires higher. It's the strenuousness fear and sudden shock that the butchered animal endured that is earned in return for consuming their bodily fluids and skin and paws etc.

    Karma will get its conconminant Pound of Flesh Back ---we aren't above and more precious a creation than a fowl ---a creature that WE cannot replicate in a lab. We are in a dog-eat-dog world.

    Where do you think the evidence [for my stance] is to be found?

    Will you tell me after the debt is balanced?

    It's NOT the vegetarians with bad luck that Rule You and me and tell us how much the Toll is raising nor how school and rent costs will rise again and agin and again until you dead and gone.

    It's NOT the vegetarians that are crooked and dictatorial and selling Viagra during the evening Simpson Cartoon.

    Gita 7.3:
    Out of many thousands among men, one may endeavor for perfection, and of those who have achieved perfection, hardly one knows Me in truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    Karma is impersonal and cold and "grinds exceedingly fine".

    Karma is meant for humans to learn by the Stick

    simultaneously-Ironically,

    Karma applies its rules impersonally.

    And doublely-Ironically, everyone keeps coming back for more.

    I am NOT remotely promoting an idea that Meat eating & War have a "Direct Cause & Effect" ---why would you bother considering that?

    Does Car manufacturing result in Drunk Driving? They are distinct entities.

    I am absolutely referring to the paradyms of society network of Karma that HAS ALREADY yield Super-Mega-Mass-Wars ... but it starts in the details ... the lust and the un-mitigating meglomania that comes from meat eating is the common denoumenator amongst the statistical number of perpetrators.

    What a shame & sham to mention Hitler as a vegetarian [which I have learn is not true] ---because has no relevance . . .

    evidently (or due to self-denial inre this subject) that the Royal Dynasty of Adam and Eve sufferred an fraticide assasination by the First princes of the Old Testiment ---over a Flesh Ritual Sacrifice:

    Cain killed, nay, "Murdered" is brother ... cain did this a] against the Golden Rule & b] as per the injunctions of the Gita words inre "Lust & un-satiated Desires beget rage"
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    Okay, let's try out the vista from the contrary POV:

    Fiddling Uncle Ernie the CEO of Erections International says,

    "Eat a different type of Meats every day of your life"
    "Feed a different type of Meats to young girls along with alcohol"
    "Sing songs with vague and/or explicit sexual references"
    "Advertise & reinforce vice with sexual allurements"
    "never call societal commoners Trash, but rather engage them in the underworld"
    "There is always greener pastures after a prison stay"
    "just have an abortion"
    "Watch and absorb the principles enjoined in the Sensational Boop-tube sages of "Three and a half Men" and seek your piece of the pie"
    "You only live once so... &^%$# whenever & where ever &^%$ ...you can"

    but ironically, the advice of Fagen the master pickpocket is timeless like:

    "But what ever you do DO NOT FORSAKE PAYING YOUR TAXES"
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