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No.Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou
And the Supreme Court has not ruled on this yet...so even the 11th does not settle it.
rebel
the supreme court has reversed many appeals court rulings based upon similiar situations, the denial of qualified immunity over use of excessive force. that should settle it for you.
and in case it doesn't.....
http://blogs.findlaw.com/supreme_cou...-immunity.html
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
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Smarter...if you want to assume you have no right not to be shot...fine with me.
I only hope I never get so tangled up in the kind of nonsense you allow yourself to become entangled in.
rebel
its not me assuming it, it's the courts flat out telling you that.
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
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Okay, you may be right.
IF YOU ARE...(something I am not yet convinced of)...with any kind of luck, our nation will one day be rid of the crud producing a society where one does not have such a right.
It'll take a while. I acknowledge that. Right now we are in a right-tilted political climate. But that disgusting political climate will change.
The myopic world of 1918...eventually gave way to the more enlightened age of the late 20th century. We look at the Jim Crow, anti-women's rights, backward thinking American conservatives of 1918 as trash we are well rid of. I expect that in 2118...they will look back at the troglodytes of today's American conservatism and wonder how supposedly intelligent humans could have thought as they do. And I am sure they will say, "We are well rid of that trash."
rebel
while it's nice to see you try to paint this as a left/right paradigm of politics, these cases and decisions have been done by both dem and rep nominees......in other words, establishment statist judicial fucktards who are pro government. I certainly do hope that the day comes when we can sit back in comforting knowledge that the government can't shoot us in our homes just because, but that day is not here so until you can force the government to acknowledge that they have no right to shoot us, you can't force citizens to acknowledge that there's a right not to be shot.
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
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Ok a whole lot of talk without one reference to the guiding directives used to make the ruling. Sorry sport you're goining to have to to better than that.
rebel
court rulings aren't good enough for you? should I ask god for a directive? try post 32
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
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Not without knowing why they ruled the way they ruled. So unless you can produce verifiable data to support your position I will have to assume you are clueless on this subject.
Oh and your other example has nothing to do with the subject it applies to the 4th amendment.
"The Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution provides that "[t]he right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly ...
So Sorry!!!!!!!
rebel
so sorry you're unable to accept federal court rulings on the subject. the board will just have to consider you a clueless idiot.
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
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The unalienable right of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." Being shot can take your "life." Being shot can take your "liberty." Being shot certainly will make you UN- "happy."
"Government is force by definition and corruption by nature. The bigger the government, the greater the force and the greater the corruption."
rebel
take it up with the numerous courts and the US Supreme Court who have said there isn't one.
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
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Oh I am more than willing to accept documented cout cases. Unfortunately all you have produced is blogs and hearsay crap. If you are so sure you are right then you should have no problem citing documented court cases that supports your position.
I will close with this if you are so positive there is no right not to get shot then try shooting someone and see what happens.
rebel
read post 30 and 32 then
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
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Those are not rights but just a philosophical statement in the Declaration. They have no legal standing.
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