NYT - A Billionaire and a Nurse Shouldn’t Pay the Same Fine for Speeding

**CFM** · 03-19-2018, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Leonthecat

A man would declare his convictions. You are a coward.

This MAN already has, boy. That you can't find it is your problem. Somewhere between too stupid and too lazy is where you lie.

**Leonthecat** · 03-19-2018, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by CFM

This MAN already has, boy. That you can't find it is your problem. Somewhere between too stupid and too lazy is where you lie.

What man? All I see is a coward too afraid to declare what he is.
You are pathetic.

**Nordberg** · 03-19-2018, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by CFM

Why should the poor get a lower fine for the SAME offense?

Of course we knew you would not understand it. The impact on a poor persons life is much more profound . They often cannot get the money up to pay a fine and a warrant is issued , Then they have real problems that include much higher costs and lawyers. They can wind up in jail because they cannot pay a fine.

You probably don't understand that a wealthy person can be quite cavalier about traffic fines. The money is no problem at all. Or they can send a lawyer to fight it and get it cleared or reduced. So traffic fines are no big deal for them. If you want the wealthy to obey the laws, then you have to make it hurt them too.

**CFM** · 03-19-2018, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by Leonthecat

What man? All I see is a coward too afraid to declare what he is.
You are pathetic.

All I see is a stupid nigger that expects a MAN to repeat what he's already answered because the former is either too stupid or too lazy to find it.

**Leonthecat** · 03-19-2018, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by CFM

All I see is a stupid nigger that expects a MAN to repeat what he's already answered because the former is either too stupid or too lazy to find it.

Coward.

**CFM** · 03-19-2018, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Nordberg

Of course we knew you would not understand it. The impact on a poor persons life is much more profound . They often cannot get the money up to pay a fine and a warrant is issued , Then they have real problems that include much higher costs and lawyers. They can wind up in jail because they cannot pay a fine.

You probably don't understand that a wealthy person can be quite cavalier about traffic fines. The money is no problem at all. Or they can send a lawyer to fight it and get it cleared or reduced. So traffic fines are no big deal for them. If you want the wealthy to obey the laws, then you have to make it hurt them too.

Something isn't determined to be a violation of the law based on the SES of the offender. That means the fine shouldn't be based on SES either.

I have a solution. Don't break the law and you won't have to worry about a fine.

The poor have no need to obey the laws under what you support. Why would they. There is no punishment. Same things with social welfare. Why would the poor ever want to better themselves when someone else is forced to support their sorry asses.

**CFM** · 03-19-2018, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Leonthecat

Coward.

Nigger.

I'm trying to understand how although having answered your question you consider me a coward. I guess you apply the same mindset to calling me a racist without having provided proof of it.

**Leonthecat** · 03-19-2018, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by CFM

Nigger.

I'm trying to understand how although having answered your question you consider me a coward. I guess you apply the same mindset to calling me a racist without having provided proof of it.

**BodyDouble** · 03-19-2018, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by tsuke

i would not be opposed to this for certain things. Bail price is the first thing that immediatly comes to my mind.

Bail and fines are two different things. Ability to not show up in court is taken into account where bail is concerned.
On a side note this thread was going good up until the post I'm responding to. Then it just turned into a you're a racist, no you're a racist fest. Seems pretty inconsiderate and not conducive to rational discussion.

**CFM** · 03-19-2018, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Leonthecat

I've answered and the only thing you have is you can't find it. That's on you, coon, not me.

**Text Drivers are Killers** · 03-19-2018, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by NOVA

So whats next ?....should we be charged different amounts for a quart of milk ?....a cup of coffee ?

Hey einstein. We're talking about punishment for crimes.

**Text Drivers are Killers** · 03-19-2018, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by CFM

Why should the poor get a lower fine for the SAME offense?

You want equality then let's replace fines with license suspensions and jail time. Make every first time DUI offender do 2 months in jail. I'm cool with that.

**Text Drivers are Killers** · 03-19-2018, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by volsrock

Lets see

A rich guy pays 50k in income tax, he pays 300.00 for speeding ticket

The poor guy with an income of 18k a year pays zero income tax and gets 3500.00 back...he pays 3.00 for speeding ticket

The rich guy is probably a lawyer or banker or athlete or politician or entertainer. A completely useless person with a "job" of no social value. Make scum like that pay.

**CFM** · 03-20-2018, 04:12 AM

Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers

You want equality then let's replace fines with license suspensions and jail time. Make every first time DUI offender do 2 months in jail. I'm cool with that.

The bleeding heart Liberals are constantly talking about a living wage for the low income yet when it comes to being held responsible for their actions, those same bleeding hearts was a lesser penalty.

First time DUI offenders should do more than that in jail.