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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ugly Truth View Post
    Do you know what the law of causality is? That is what I'm talking about. It's pretty simple. Compare it to someone being their own father, or creating themselves from nothing. Everything has a cause. And there had to be a first cause for everything. Science does not allow an infinite regression of causes. One cause, that was not caused by anything, started everything. It's the only explanation that makes sense.
    was it caused by immaterial beings in the vicinity of the Horsehead Nebula?.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    this does not prove that God did it.....that is a matter only for faith.......
    By definition, God would be the only one capable of creating the universe. It couldn't have created itself, so someone created it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ugly Truth View Post
    By definition, God would be the only one capable of creating the universe. It couldn't have created itself, so someone created it.
    Who created your god then, since nothing can exist w/o having a creator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    why are you making up numbers?.....
    Nope.. don't you know what the Jewish year is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ugly Truth View Post
    By definition, God would be the only one capable of creating the universe. It couldn't have created itself, so someone created it.
    who you believe created it is a matter of faith......I believe it was YHWH.......someone else might believe it was a Tuna named Charlie.......neither of us can prove what we choose to believe.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Nope.. don't you know what the Jewish year is?
    I know that atheists and Young Earthers believe the Bible sets a time line for creation......rational people, not so much......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    I know that atheists and Young Earthers believe the Bible sets a time line for creation......rational people, not so much......
    No.. look at the Jewish year .. Adam and Eve were created in October 5776 years ago.... or maybe it was 5777 years ago .. I lose track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ugly Truth View Post
    By definition, God would be the only one capable of creating the universe. It couldn't have created itself, so someone created it.
    By YOUR definition, bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    No.. look at the Jewish year .. Adam and Eve were created in October 5776 years ago.... or maybe it was 5777 years ago .. I lose track.
    idiot....

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ugly Truth View Post
    And science has proven that it is impossible for something to create itself. I asked your opinion of a scientific fact, yet you refuse to answer. That tells me all I need to know. You hide behind science, but you don't really believe in it, or even understand it. Especially when it doesn't agree with you. Facts are facts. I presented one. I asked you for your opinion. You refuse to answer. In my book, that makes you a loser. Sucks to be you.
    One...science has not proven that it is impossible for something to create itself.

    Two...science has not proven that THE UNIVERSE has not always existed...that it "came into being."

    Most ontological arguments are laughable...yours are amateurishly so. You ought not to be calling others "losers."

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ugly Truth View Post
    If it wasn't created, then why does it exist? It didn't create itself.
    Maybe it always existed...like that god you think always existed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    ...an eternal being has no beginning and therefore needs no creator.....
    How can something not be created yet exist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    idiot....
    I fear YOU are the idiot.. This is the Jewish year 5777 since creation.. They wrote the story from God.. Do you think they got it wrong?

    Israel's official calendar is the Hebrew one. According to Jewish counting, on September 24, 2014, we entered the Year 5775, that is - the supposed 5775th year since the world was created on Saturday night, October 6, 3761 BCE.Sep 25, 2014
    The Hebrew Calendar: A marvel of ancient astronomy and math ...
    https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.prem...ndar-1.5304911

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ugly Truth View Post
    By definition, God would be the only one capable of creating the universe. It couldn't have created itself, so someone created it.
    Israel's official calendar is the Hebrew one. According to Jewish counting, on September 24, 2014, we entered the Year 5775, that is - the supposed 5775th year since the world was created on Saturday night, October 6, 3761 BCE.Sep 25, 2014
    The Hebrew Calendar: A marvel of ancient astronomy and math ...

    https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.prem...ndar-1.5304911

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Matter did not create itself


    matter is just merely what exists


    It is the nature of reality


    from matter life was created

    recombining conditions and matter in combination after combination


    life is the result of some of those combinations under the right conditions.


    matter can be proven to exist


    no gods or monsters have ever been proven to exist
    Are you saying that under the right conditions I could take a bunch a of watch parts, put them in a ziplock bag, shake and shake, and it will become a watch?

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