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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    oh look.....someone gave an atheist crayons....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    No.. KJV

    The Servant songs (also called the Servant poems or the Songs of the Suffering Servant) are four songs in the Book of Isaiah in the Hebrew Bible, which include Isaiah 42:1-4; Isaiah 49:1-6; Isaiah 50:4-7; and Isaiah 52:13-53:12.
    so its just your errors in interpretation.......happens to atheists everywhere.....

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    The key point about Christians is that only a tiny minority are Americans. McCarthy banned 'em, I believe.
    Last edited by iolo; 11-19-2018 at 06:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    No.. KJV

    The Servant songs (also called the Servant poems or the Songs of the Suffering Servant) are four songs in the Book of Isaiah in the Hebrew Bible, which include Isaiah 42:1-4; Isaiah 49:1-6; Isaiah 50:4-7; and Isaiah 52:13-53:12.
    any particular reason you avoided Isaiah 53?.....you know....the part that says the suffering servant will die to save us from our transgressions?.....did Israel do that too?.....
    Last edited by PostmodernProphet; 11-19-2018 at 06:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    any particular reason you avoided Isaiah 53?.....you know....the part that says the suffering servant will die to save us from our transgressions?.....did Israel do that too?.....

    You really do have a reading problem.

    Here's what I wrote and you answered.

    No.. KJV

    The Servant songs (also called the Servant poems or the Songs of the Suffering Servant) are four songs in the Book of Isaiah in the Hebrew Bible, which include Isaiah 42:1-4; Isaiah 49:1-6; Isaiah 50:4-7; and Isaiah 52:13-53:12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    You really do have a reading problem.
    Here's what I wrote and you answered.
    and here's what I wrote and you refuse to answer.....

    the part that says the suffering servant will die to save us from our transgressions?.....did Israel do that too?.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    and here's what I wrote and you refuse to answer.....
    Isaiah described the nation of Israel as God's servant who at times suffered because of its relationship to God but would one day be vindicated, one day be restored from captivity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Isaiah described the nation of Israel as God's servant who at times suffered because of its relationship to God but would one day be vindicated, one day be restored from captivity.
    third time.....Isaiah said the suffering servant died to save us from our transgressions......when did the nation of Israel die for me?.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    third time.....Isaiah said the suffering servant died to save us from our transgressions......when did the nation of Israel die for me?.......
    Isaiah was talking about the end of the Babylonian exile.. The exiles had been servants in Babylon and were very oppressed.

    look at verses 1 and 2 of Isaiah 40.

    "Comfort, O comfort My people," says your God.
    "Speak kindly to Jerusalem; And call out to her, that her warfare has ended,
    [Though she was still in servitude to the Babylonian empire.]
    That her iniquity has been removed,
    That she has received of the Lord's hand Double for all her sins.

    This is the first word of comfort that Isaiah addresses to his people. You have been forgiven of all your sins. It was the sins of Judah that drove her into exile, and Isaiah says those sins have been forgiven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    so its just your errors in interpretation.......happens to atheists everywhere.....
    Happens to hominids with previously determined frenetic rabid frothy-mouthed belief systems.

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    Iaiah 53:1 Who has believed our message
    not kudzu......

    He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
    and like a root out of dry ground.
    He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
    nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
    3 He was despised and rejected by mankind,
    a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
    Like one from whom people hide their faces
    he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

    4 Surely he took up our pain
    and bore our suffering,
    yet we considered him punished by God,
    stricken by him, and afflicted.
    5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
    he was crushed for our iniquities;
    the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
    and by his wounds we are healed.
    6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
    each of us has turned to our own way;
    and the Lord has laid on him
    the iniquity of us all.
    are you claiming this was the nation of Israel?......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    oh look.....someone gave an atheist crayons....
    what a very low IQ goyim, the dying demographic
    “If we have to have a choice between being dead and pitied, and being alive with a bad image, we’d rather be alive and have the bad image.”

    — Golda Meir

    Zionism is the movement for the self-determination and statehood for the Jewish people in their ancestral homeland, the land of Israel.


    “If Hamas put down their weapons, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons, there would be no Israel."






    ברוך השם

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    not kudzu......



    are you claiming this was the nation of Israel?......
    This is Israel..

    He was despised and rejected by mankind,
    a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
    Like one from whom people hide their faces
    he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    what a very low IQ goyim, the dying demographic
    and yet, unlike the senile semite, I know how to provide links when I post statistics.......you know what they say about people who are ashamed to admit their sources, right.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    and yet, unlike the senile semite, I know how to provide links when I post statistics.......you know what they say about people who are ashamed to admit their sources, right.....
    Presidential material?

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