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    Quote Originally Posted by aloysious View Post
    It was a tragedy. Too bad the atrocities committed by the NVA and VC were never publicized. What they did was 1,000 X's worse. But that's war. No side is completely innocent.
    I hold my country to a higher standard than communist rebels and fascist brown shirts.

    I am pretty sure most educated people realize that communist insurgents throughout history have slaughtered civilians and committed heinous war crimes.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/19/o...trocities.html

    The Bolsheviks burned down the church in my grandfather's village.....with the priest locked inside it.

    The fire bombing of German and Japanese cities by Allied air forces in WW2 cannot be justified ethically.

    I believe most liberals would like to see international institutions that hold war criminals accountable beefed up, aka the War Crimes Tribunal in the Hague, et al. International law can always be improved and beefed up to put potential war criminals on notice.

    However, I have never noticed conservatives showing even a slight interest in international law, or working with the international community to beef up war crimes investigation tribunals. The fact that a lot of conservatives were cheering for water boarding and the torture of prisoners actually wreaked havoc on or credibility as a nation committed to justice and the rule of law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon2012 View Post
    Tolerated. People are still dying from Agent Orange.
    Did you see many deformed kids while you were passing through ?
    The only deformed kids I saw were pictures in the War Remnants Museum in Saigon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloysious View Post
    It was a tragedy. Too bad the atrocities committed by the NVA and VC were never publicized. What they did was 1,000 X's worse. But that's war. No side is completely innocent.
    My daughter-in-law's family can give you chapter and verse on the Viet Cong and Viet Minh. They were very cruel to people in Saigon for the first few years after the war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    I have been to the Sơn Mỹ Memorial where the massacre occurred.

    I might add that Americans are welcome in Vietnam now. The US Navy has berthing facilities in Đà Nẵng these days.
    Quote Originally Posted by moon2012 View Post
    Tolerated.
    No. Welcomed. I've been there too. The wife and I were riding bikes in the countryside outside Hoi An when we passed a group of Vietnamese men sitting around drinking beer. They invited us to sit and have some with them. We had a great time with them. Everybody we met was wonderful. Would love to go back.
    Quote Originally Posted by moon2012 View Post
    People are still dying from Agent Orange.
    Did you see many deformed kids while you were passing through ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    The only deformed kids I saw were pictures in the War Remnants Museum in Saigon.
    Same here.

    @moonbat : where do you get your information from? Ever been there? If so maybe they only 'tolerated' you because you acted like an asshole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    My daughter-in-law's family can give you chapter and verse on the Viet Cong and Viet Minh. They were very cruel to people in Saigon for the first few years after the war.
    New Orleans, where I grew up, had a large Vietnamese refugee population. I've heard many stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I hold my country to a higher standard than communist rebels and fascist brown shirts.

    I am pretty sure most educated people realize that communist insurgents throughout history have slaughtered civilians and committed heinous war crimes.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/19/o...trocities.html

    The Bolsheviks burned down the church in my grandfather's village.....with the priest locked inside it.

    The fire bombing of German and Japanese cities by Allied air forces in WW2 cannot be justified ethically.

    I believe most liberals would like to see international institutions that hold war criminals accountable beefed up, aka the War Crimes Tribunal in the Hague, et al. International law can always be improved and beefed up to put potential war criminals on notice.

    However, I have never noticed conservatives showing even a slight interest in international law, or working with the international community to beef up war crimes investigation tribunals. The fact that a lot of conservatives were cheering for water boarding and the torture of prisoners actually wreaked havoc on or credibility as a nation committed to justice and the rule of law.
    Very well said.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aloysious View Post
    No. Welcomed. I've been there too. The wife and I were riding bikes in the countryside outside Hoi An when we passed a group of Vietnamese men sitting around drinking beer. They invited us to sit and have some with them. We had a great time with them. Everybody we met was wonderful. Would love to go back. Same here.

    @moonbat : where do you get your information from? Ever been there? If so maybe they only 'tolerated' you because you acted like an asshole.
    They just wanted your tourist money. I'm friendly with a past Vietnamese embassy employee. You're one deluded dupe.
    They have a vernacular name for ' forgive and forget ' tourists.
    " First they came for the journalists...
    We don't know what happened after that . "

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon2012 View Post
    They just wanted your tourist money. I'm friendly with a past Vietnamese embassy employee. You're one deluded dupe.
    We drank their beer - on them. No money involved.
    Another tailor in town fixed my broken watch band for free - wouldn't take my money. I woulda paid him $15.
    That Vietnamese embassy employee only tolerates you. Like I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloysious View Post
    We drank their beer - on them. No money involved. That Vietnamese embassy employee only tolerates you. Like I do.
    I have no reason to believe you- and your assumptions conform with your delusion.
    " First they came for the journalists...
    We don't know what happened after that . "

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloysious View Post
    No. Welcomed. I've been there too. The wife and I were riding bikes in the countryside outside Hoi An when we passed a group of Vietnamese men sitting around drinking beer. They invited us to sit and have some with them. We had a great time with them. Everybody we met was wonderful. Would love to go back. Same here.

    @moonbat : where do you get your information from? Ever been there? If so maybe they only 'tolerated' you because you acted like an asshole.
    Did they teach you the beer drinking toast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon2012 View Post
    I have no reason to believe you- and your assumptions conform with your delusion.
    Of course you would not believe him. He actually went there and lived it. Unlike you in your mothers basement coward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloysious View Post
    We drank their beer - on them. No money involved.
    Another tailor in town fixed my broken watch band for free - wouldn't take my money. I woulda paid him $15.
    That Vietnamese embassy employee only tolerates you. Like I do.
    He's full of shit, the Vietnamese love drinking beer and playing cards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon2012 View Post
    I have no reason to believe you- and your assumptions conform with your delusion.
    You have a 'friend' that tolerates you. I went to professional school with Vietnamese plus I've been there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonBAT View Post
    The My what ?

    Never mind. Anybody seen Melania Trump's panties ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre

    50 years on. Still at it.

    Yanqui- go home.
    Yes, let's pretend that there were no atrocities committed by the Viet Cong or NVA right dumbfuck?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    He's full of shit, the Vietnamese love drinking beer and playing cards.
    Hilarious. That's exactly what we did! Moonbat is one miserable fuck, isn't he?

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